2025 NFL Season Thread

[dsvitak]

I think Cam Newton needs to shut his pie hole...

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl/bre...202920471.html

[low]

Originally Posted by dsvitak

I think Cam Newton needs to shut his pie hole...

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl/bre...202920471.html

Right. I'd bet anything that if Drake Maye fumbled in the biggest game of his life that he'd at least try to recover it.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by low

Right. I'd bet anything that if Drake Maye fumbled in the biggest game of his life that he'd at least try to recover it.

You know how the NFL puts out those top 10s? If they put out a top 10 business decisions, Cam would have to be top 3. Might even be #1.

But as far as these comments go, a lot of people are saying the same thing. Who cares? People have been saying this about the Patriots for 2 decades when the Dolphins, Jets, and Bills sucked most of the time. If you get to the SB, who cares?

[Cobra Mgr]

I'm a Drake fan cause he went to UNC. I'm a Newton fan cause he played for the Panthers.

New England's opponents have a record of 39-63. They are one of Vegas' 2 victories. Among their 8 wins are Cleveland, Miami, Orleans, Tennessee & the Jets. Five teams we knew by Oct 1 they would be picking in the 1st third of the 2026 NFL draft. Plus, now 3-7 Atlanta.

They have Cincy & the Giants next, get Buffalo & Baltimore, then end w/the Dolphins & Jets again. So they have 8 of 17 games vs currently the bottom 6 records in the NFL. And depending on how things shake out, they could eventually finish playing 11 vs the bottom 10.

No one should feel Cam is acting like a hater by being skeptical of a 4-13 2024 team being 8-2 vs that kind of schedule.

[Amazin69]

Plus, let's not get too excited about the Week 4 win vs the Panthers. That was before Carolina started to get its act together, Rico Dowdle wasn't starting, it was in New England with the Cats traveling off of their shock 30-0 crushing of the Falcons, and it was largely special teams-driven. A win is a win, but take it easy on that one.

12-5, say, will be a lovely step forward from 4-13. Does that make them a Super Bowl lock? Not necessarily, IMO.

[Cobra Mgr]

The NFL's Concussion Crisis

Interesting documentary. An interesting theory as to why the NFL is sending so many games overseas. The link above begins midday into the video because I think the 1st half of the info is pretty much common knowledge by now. Especially if you saw the movie Concussion. The 2nd half speaks on the NFL's response to the problem & their motivations.

[Cobra Mgr]

Police did welfare checks twice on Kneeland while he was in college.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

The NFL's Concussion Crisis

Interesting documentary. An interesting theory as to why the NFL is sending so many games overseas. The link above begins midday into the video because I think the 1st half of the info is pretty much common knowledge by now. Especially if you saw the movie Concussion. The 2nd half speaks on the NFL's response to the problem & their motivations.

I'm not sure what I watched. It could be because I just woke up. The NFL is trying to push flag football overseas? Flag isn't new. It's been around since the 70s I believe. We played two hand touch instead, no need for the rags. But what's the endgame?

The guy asked a question towards the end of the video. How much longer will people be watching that game from their couch knowing what they know now. Something like that. I predict an insignificant number of fans stop watching the game because of this.

Do kids play football on streets, parking lots, or fields anymore? I really don't know.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

I'm not sure what I watched. It could be because I just woke up. The NFL is trying to push flag football overseas? Flag isn't new. It's been around since the 70s I believe. We played two hand touch instead, no need for the rags. But what's the endgame?

The guy asked a question towards the end of the video. How much longer will people be watching that game from their couch knowing what they know now. Something like that. I predict an insignificant number of fans stop watching the game because of this.

Do kids play football on streets, parking lots, or fields anymore? I really don't know.

The flag football angle was interesting because I had wondered myself why the NFL was pushing this recently. Flag football may not be new. But the NFL trying to expand that version of the sport is relatively new.

According to the vid, the reasoning is they are trying to keep youth involved in the game. And if parents aren't allowing their kids to play tackle football, at least they could get into the safer version & hopefully still be future consumers as adults. I think it is a good idea for them because it involves girls playing & that can expand the NFL's reach into the female market.

The reasoning for the foreign push was an interesting theory to me. Because I hadn't thought of the NFL's popularity having the potential to drop in the USA. I knew the NFL was seeking more profit. Duh. But I hadn't thought of them as being fearful of needing to replace lost fans in America.

So the vid did help me better understand the business decisions the owners are making. There is some forethought to the madness, though it still is motivated by a lot of greed. Lost consumers or not, I'm still opposed to tax $ building this billionaire's club factories to make profit & then letting them take the product oversees.

And as much as I love, LOVE, LOVE watching tackle football, my conscience would not be opposed to seeing the violence taken down a few notches. In order to prevent future suicide, mass killers, family destroyers, senility & 50 yr olds who can't walk. So get rid of helmets? Get rid of the 3/4point stance? End the QB sneak? Drastic changes, for sure. But it is kind of sadistic & inhumane to know what we know & think "Que sera, sera".

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

And as much as I love, LOVE, LOVE watching tackle football, my conscience would not be opposed to seeing the violence taken down a few notches. In order to prevent future suicide, mass killers, family destroyers, senility & 50 yr olds who can't walk. So get rid of helmets? Get rid of the 3/4point stance? End the QB sneak? Drastic changes, for sure. But it is kind of sadistic & inhumane to know what we know & think "Que sera, sera".

I agree with the rest of your post. Makes perfect sense. This is where we part ways. Drastic changes can hurt the game. Alternate leagues have never been able to compete with the NFL. But if the NFL changes so drastically that it no longer resembles the sport it used to be, that might change. Fans will flock to what they are used to seeing. As an example, if the NFL went full flag football, any other tackle football league in full pads would easily overtake them.

BTW, the two concussions I've had playing football were with no pads or helmet. Never got one in pads.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

I agree with the rest of your post. Makes perfect sense. This is where we part ways. Drastic changes can hurt the game. Alternate leagues have never been able to compete with the NFL. But if the NFL changes so drastically that it no longer resembles the sport it used to be, that might change. Fans will flock to what they are used to seeing. As an example, if the NFL went full flag football, any other tackle football league in full pads would easily overtake them.

BTW, the two concussions I've had playing football were with no pads or helmet. Never got one in pads.

I expect a lot of fans not to agree w/my opinion. If there is one thing people find annoying about me it is my firm stand on an unpopular, personal opinion.

I'm not of the mind that concussions can ever be eliminated in any physical contact sport. But I don't think avoiding change because it will affect popularity or the bottom line is necessarily a good excuse when health and quality of life hangs in the balance. Similar objections I'm sure were made 150 or so years ago when changes were made in the coal mining industry, assembly lines, child labor and what not. Doomsday was probably declared when the hockey mask was 1st worn, or the batting helmet & facemask. Dale Earnhart had the same feelings when the racecar had added safety features. One year too late.

The problem for the NFL is that we've got a number of Earnharts as examples. It has been way past time for the league to act on behalf of their employees. They should not let the conservative fear of change prevent them from being proactive for the sake long term health. Men in power have cried the "sky is falling" whenever they have been forced to spend and adjust their industry standards for the well being of others. They were wrong then and are wrong now.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

I expect a lot of fans not to agree w/my opinion. If there is one thing people find annoying about me it is my firm stand on an unpopular, personal opinion.

I'm not of the mind that concussions can ever be eliminated in any physical contact sport. But I don't think avoiding change because it will affect popularity or the bottom line is necessarily a good excuse when health and quality of life hangs in the balance. Similar objections I'm sure were made 150 or so years ago when changes were made in the coal mining industry, assembly lines, child labor and what not. Doomsday was probably declared when the hockey mask was 1st worn, or the batting helmet & facemask. Dale Earnhart had the same feelings when the racecar had added safety features. One year too late.

The problem for the NFL is that we've got a number of Earnharts as examples. It has been way past time for the league to act on behalf of their employees. They should not let the conservative fear of change prevent them from being proactive for the sake long term health. Men in power have cried the "sky is falling" whenever they have been forced to spend and adjust their industry standards for the well being of others. They were wrong then and are wrong now.

I don't disagree with any of this. I'm just trying to point out a glaring problem. Years ago laws were passed to protect workers and children. No such thing will happen with football. If the NFL does something drastic, there will be no laws to stop another league from filling the void.

[David Watts]

Wow, why in the heck didn't the Giant's coach kick the field goal to go up by 6?

[monkeyman576]

Lack of contact has made the NBA unwatchable in my opinion.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Wow, why in the heck didn't the Giant's coach kick the field goal to go up by 6?

They wanted to make it interesting.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

They wanted to make it interesting.

They were successful.

[Amazin69]

Wow.

You suck, Iggles.

(Kevin Burkhardt, I love you, but did we really need to suggest that Marshawn Kneeland may be "looking down from above"?? I have at least three objections to that idea.)

[low]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

Lack of contact has made the NBA unwatchable in my opinion.

For me it's the lack of integrity. Just like soccer. Basketball is fine, basketball is fun. The NBA sucks.

[low]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Wow, why in the heck didn't the Giant's coach kick the field goal to go up by 6?

I watched the end of this game and their decision to go for it on 4th down was nanners. I'm not even a Giants fan and I was losing my mind.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by low

I watched the end of this game and their decision to go for it on 4th down was nanners. I'm not even a Giants fan and I was losing my mind.

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

.....Which leads me to this......Where is the data on all this "go for it, screw the 3" nonsense? Will the math nerds please tell me how your math is mathin'?

Here is my philosophy....If it is a close game before the 4th quarter & you can score 3 on 4th down...Kick the frikkin' ball!!!!......Stop throwing away points. Passing on the FG to go for it on 4th before the final quarter should be done only if (A)the ball is inside the opponent's 3 on 4th & goal, (B) your PK is hurt, (C) the distance is one yard & your line shoves icebergs in the off season. STOP GIVING AWAY POINTS!!!!!!!...........

Cowboys nearly screwed up their win by going for it late instead of taking the lead.

I don't get the stupidity