SP Groundballers vs Flyballers

[usa_hank]

Has anyone done any analysis on groundballers vs flyballers vs neutral starting pitchers? I'm curious what the consensus is. I'm just wondering if a player like 100 Greg Maddux outplays his ratings because he is rated as an extreme groundballer vs someone like a 100 Pedro Martinez, who is rated as a flyballer but has better ratings. I would expect you'd have to likely have a highly rated defensive infield to see any effect?

[Dr.Drill]

I lived on groundballers (usually low stuff/high PBABIP/High HR Rate) in 26 but have lost my faith in 27. Not working nearly as well through tiers.

[cwhitman]

Originally Posted by usa_hank

Has anyone done any analysis on groundballers vs flyballers vs neutral starting pitchers? I'm curious what the consensus is. I'm just wondering if a player like 100 Greg Maddux outplays his ratings because he is rated as an extreme groundballer vs someone like a 100 Pedro Martinez, who is rated as a flyballer but has better ratings. I would expect you'd have to likely have a highly rated defensive infield to see any effect?

In PT26 there was an HRA impact where an XFB guy would allow more homers than an XGB with the same rating: this year I have seen close to no impact on that. There are probably some super minimal defense things but really I've seen close to no impact and ignore it at this point.