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[BklynJace]

Not sure there's anyone new here but I loved this shot of Mets prospects from around '67 (guessing at the date), many sporting different numbers than we're used to seeing. Thought folks might get a kick out of it. I found it on Twitter, posted by Mets Rewind.

From L to R, best I can tell: Steve Renko, Les Rohr, Al Schmelz, Jon Matlack, [not sure -- Larry Bearnarth?], Jerry Koosman, [no idea], Nolan Ryan, Jim McAndrew, [not sure -- Dick Rusteck?], Dan Frisella.

Help filling in the blanks/making corrections would be awesome, if anyone's so inclined.

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Originally Posted by Rainmaker

The new stuff isn't in a zip file. It's here:


Index of /images/13076


WinZip is what I use for the zip files. Very affordable and I'm cheap.

THANK YOU. Rainmaker for getting me to the right direction of the topps vault.

[Merkle923]

The wacky uniform numbers peg this as an instructional league shot. Hard to date since, even though they were all long gone from the majors, Hinsley was still in the Mets' system through the 1968 season, Hepler and Schmelz through 1969, Bethke through 1970.

The list, by numbers: 21 Steve Renko, 4_ Les Rohr, 16 Alan Schmelz, 36 Jon Matlack, 29 Jerry Hinsley, 26 Jerry Koosman, _3 Jim Bethke, 20 Nolan Ryan, 34 Jim McAndrew, 32 Bill Hepler, 31 Danny Frisella.

[Rainmaker]

Has anyone out there ever picked up any of the 1981 Fleer proof cards. Specifically, I am trying to find an image of the Rick Honeycutt card. I had this once upon a time in a previous tax bracket.

Thanks to you all.

[Rainmaker]

Found a mini-mystery in the Vault. This image (BC 783) is listed as Felipe Alou, as a New York Giant. Alou did not break into the majors until 1958, the Giants' first year in San Francisco. He was signed in November of 1955 and I have not seen any information that would indicate that he was ever called up any time in 1956 or 1957 and that sure looks like the Polo Grounds.
It looks like it could be a young Alou. I can't match it confidently with any other New York Giants from 1956. Can some historian dig up when might have been suited up with the New York Giants or perhaps ID it as someone else?

[caribeño]

looks like Andrè Rodgers to me .

[Merkle923]

It's Andre Rodgers and dates to 1957.

For comparison, here's a San Francisco image (probably from 1960) that is angled similarly to the New York image.

[custard48]

Originally Posted by BklynJace

Not sure there's anyone new here but I loved this shot of Mets prospects from around '67 (guessing at the date), many sporting different numbers than we're used to seeing. Thought folks might get a kick out of it. I found it on Twitter, posted by Mets Rewind.

From L to R, best I can tell: Steve Renko, Les Rohr, Al Schmelz, Jon Matlack, [not sure -- Larry Bearnarth?], Jerry Koosman, [no idea], Nolan Ryan, Jim McAndrew, [not sure -- Dick Rusteck?], Dan Frisella.

Help filling in the blanks/making corrections would be awesome, if anyone's so inclined.

Nice pic. It's from November of '67 at Huggins-Stengel Field in St. Petersburg and as Merkle correctly notes, from the Instructional League. The photo purports to show off the Mets talented and tall young staff of the future. From left to right - Steve Renko, Les Rohr, Al Schmelz, Jon Matlack, the next guy, that's giving everyone trouble ID'ing is Mike McCready (not Bearnarth or Hinsley), Jerry Koosman, Jim Bethke, Nolan Ryan, Jim McAndrew, Bill Hepler and Danny Frisella.

[custard48]

Three out of those 11 pitchers photographed (Koosman, Matlack & Ryan) combined to win 671 major league games. I'd say that's an extremely unlikely outcome, given the fragile nature of pitching, especially 50 years ago.

[custard48]

Originally Posted by Merkle923

The celebration is of the 1955 team's then-record tying feat of winning its first nine games. They'd break the mark to go 10-0 before losing. Can't tell the half a Dodger upper right for sure but the youth, shape of the chin, and the circumstances suggests Clem Labine - he saved the ninth win just before the shot was taken.

Also, the incomplete figure may be holding something in his left hand but it's not a phone, unless it's a toy. A 1955 phone would have to be attached to something.

It turns out that half-head isn't holding anything. He's making the same closed fist thumb up sign that his teammates are making. The dark area that appears to be some object is shadow.

[Merkle923]

One of the few positives in moving is, that you find stuff you lost the last time you moved.

This won't be mistaken for Ozzie Sweet or anything, but I took this of the Yankees' top draftee washout (fourteenth overall pick in the '74 draft) who played four different positions in his five major league games. If I remember correctly, this was a game in late June, 1978 against the Red Sox for which Sherrill was summoned from West Haven of the Eastern League when one of the middle infielders was injured (that's Brian Doyle behind him).

[Rainmaker]

I have been taking an interest in the Pegasus UIN list in recent weeks, wondering how such a daunting task begins in the first place. But it's one of those projects where just about anyone can find something that helps.
I cleared as many missing Atlanta Braves as I could, but another resource I have I'd almost forgotten about. When I renewed my interest in the hobby a few years back, someone on eBay was selling data CDs with photos of every player from certain teams and eras; his name was not on the product, and I regretfully do not remember.
But one of them covered the Oakland A's from 1968-97. A couple of these images came friom that disc.

1973 Rob Gardner (from okcochise)



1972 Mike Kilkenny (from Bottomms cards)



1977 Jim Umbarger (from disc; was originally Lexibell?)



1988 Ed Jurak (from disc)



1991 Brad Komminsk (from back of 1992 Score card)



Hope these help!

[Rainmaker]

Can't believe I had this all along. Image of John Herrnstein on 1966-2013 Atlanta Braves data disc (see above post). Pretty sure this was originally in the Braves' game program, which was updated through the year with roster changes.

[hobbs11]

As the T.V. folders steam through the "BRs", Nelson Briles was again showcased and it brought to mind a question. Why are there no other images of him with the Royals in 1975 or earlier?

I suppose I'll put this to you Merkle as I'm more curious than anything else. We know that Topps took his pic in 1974 as it is in the 1975 set. Yet seemingly nothing has come to light from Topps that represents his other full season with KC.

I'm aware that the SSPC folks got him as well but again - just curious. Thanks!

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3781102

[Pinetarpress]

Mike Brewer was an outstanding athlete (basketball and baseball) coming out of Foothill College in Los Altos, CA....He was drafted in the 1st round of the January phase of the draft in 1979. He played for the Royals organization thru 1984 and spent 1985 with the Indians AAA club. He returned to KC in 1986 and made his big league debut on June 11th versus the Mariners going 0-3. He stayed with the Royals thru June and played his last game as a big leaguer on July 2nd. He did not play professional baseball after the 1986 season. His older brother Tony played 24 games with the 1984 Dodgers.

Mike did a great interview with Kansas City radio DJ Dave-O if you care to listen Mike Brewer - Clubhouse Conversation

[Dto7]

Elmer Zacher played in one game for the New York Giants before being purchased by the St. Louis Cardinals on May 8, 1910.

[FatJack]

These don't turn up all that often. This is the Brace image of Freddie Velazquez that was used for the Galasso set. And, unlike most Brace photos, this one is actually clear and bright. Velazquez was the third-string catcher for the expansion Pilots. He was nicknamed "Poor Devil" by Gary Bell and Jim Bouton because he was so excited to be in the major leagues, but almost never got to play. Most teams stopped carrying 3 catchers a few years later. 3 catchers gave a manager some versatility--you could pinch hit and play lefty-righty without worrying about having no one available in case of injury--but, mostly, the 3rd catcher would stay in the bullpen to warm up the relievers. Certainly, that was Freddie's fate with Seattle. Some teams went to the "emergency catcher"--a player whose natural position was elsewhere but, in a pinch, could do the job. For the bullpen, they went to using full time bullpen catchers who, for roster purposes, were considered part of the coaching staff.

This Brace image of Poor Devil was used for 3.5x5 postcards and I'm guessing the current autographed offering by tim328 on eBay is one of those 3.5x5s. It'll only set you back $50 (assuming no one else bids). Also attached is a clean scan of a 3.5x5 from my own collection (perhaps a tad over-saturated).

EDIT: Just noticed that my 3.5x5 is a bit wider in perspective (can't see the anniversary patch at all in the eBay offering), which likely means the eBay offering is the 4x6 version.

[FatJack]

Was somebody looking for this?

[Pinetarpress]

Art Gardner spent 1978 in the Giants organization after 7 years with the Astros organization (playing in 79 big league games with them during the 1975 and 1977 seasons)

In 1978 Gardner spent most of the year at AAA with Phoenix hitting .267 with 16 HR and 37 SB. He was a September call up and saw action in 7 big league games going 0-3 with 2 K's and 2 RS. He spent 1979 and 1980 with the Expos AAA club before heading overseas and playing for Hiroshima in 1981 and 1982. In 1986 he showed up on the Rangers AA roster at Tulsa playing in 28 games.

[Merkle923]

Mostly Cub reliever, finishing up with the A's in 1960.

Tuesday's Topps uploads (KC) 541-544 Nelson Briles; 545-548 Harry Bright; 549-550 John Briggs 1956; 551-554 Ken Brett; 555-556 Bob Brenly; 557-558 Frank Bertaina; 559-560 Wayne Brescher (Senators system); 561-564 John E. Briggs 1964; 565-568 Dan Briggs; 569-572 Rocky Bridges; 573-574 Marshall Bridges; 575-576 Alan Brice; 577-578 Mike Brewer; 579-580 Tom Brewer; 581-582 Art Gardner; 583-584 Tim McCollom (Angels system); 585-586 Orlando Cepeda; 587-588 Tom Brookens; 589-590 Ike Brookens; 591-592 Rico Brogna; 593-594 Ernie Broglio; 595-596 Pete Broberg; 597-598 Jim W. Britton (Atlanta system, not major leaguer of same name); 599-600 Jim Britton; 601-602 Dave Bristol; 603-606 Ed Brinkman; 607-610 Chuck Brinkman; 611-612 Fred Breining; 613-614 Jim Holt; 615-616 Willie McGee; 617-618 Gene Freese; 619-620 Danny Jaster (Cardinals system).