Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

[cinemaodyssey]

Here's a nice image of Donovan wearing Phillies garb. This was printed in The Philadelphia Inquirer on April 13, 1906.

[cinemaodyssey]

Does anyone know the source for this image? It looks like it was taken from The Sporting Life but I was unsuccessful searching for it.

[tnfoto]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Does anyone know the source for this image? It looks like it was taken from The Sporting Life but I was unsuccessful searching for it.

It looks like that Kane image was originally shared here by UKBaseballfan in 2007. Perhaps he can recall the primary source.

[Merkle923]

This elusive one-game New York Giants' prospect from 1932 popped up in a random Google image search - as a football player at Fordham, in a photo auctioned off on eBay, with a caption in the Russian alphabet.

Your guess is as good as mine.

Tobin pinch-hit on September 22, 1932. Grounded out. That was it. Between the short trip from the Fordham campus to the Polo Grounds in late spring, and that briefest of NL cameos, he'd gone to the Piedmont League, and was supposed to play for the Giants' farm in Knoxville in 1933. But he didn't. Didn't play pro football either.

Since the watermark was conveniently placed to avoid his head, I took the liberty of cleaning up the original publicity photo to make it a little more suitable for baseball.

[Jabez54]

Great head photo of Tip!
As well as, Jerry!!
Nice upgrade!

[cinemaodyssey]

Thanks, Scott. The aspect ratio was definitely skewed in the Facepack as well as on Baseball-Reference. Here's my best attempt to clarify Kane's portrait.

[tnfoto]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Thanks, Scott. The aspect ratio was definitely skewed in the Facepack as well as on Baseball-Reference. Here's my best attempt to clarify Kane's portrait.

Great work, that looks much better. Thanks!

[cinemaodyssey]

Looking through the Missing Players spreadsheet, I observed that there is a note that Quinlan may be pictured in the 1890 Lovell Arms team photo. Looking through some of the box scores and newspapers of the time, I think there's a really good chance this is him. He played most of the year in the Outfield and a few games at Catcher. This mirrors his major league experience exactly. He was from Marlborough, which was a city on the schedule for Lovell in the early part of the season. The team featured several players who would go on to appear in the majors, namely Toby Lyons and Henry Burrell.

[Cusick]

I think the original image came from the New York Clipper. Shown below is the image of Jerry Kane from the New York Clipper of February 21, 1891 as published in a book called THE COMPLETE NEW YORK CLIPPER BASEBALL BIOGRAPHIES.

Baseball encyclopedias used to list Jerry Kane as William Jeremiah Kane. That's why the image below shows him as W. Kane. The New York Clipper article that accompanied the image clearly mentioned his having been with the 1890 St. Louis Browns and even presented a few stats for the 8 games he played for them.

Somewhere along the line, the powers-that-be changed Jerry Kane's formal name to Jeremiah Joseph Kane. He is listed that way in both Baseball-Reference.com and Retrosheet. I don't think that invalidates the image, but I'm presenting what I know about the situation for interested parties to ponder.

Baseball-Reference.com appears to be using the same image for Jerry Kane as UKBaseballFan posted to this forum back in 2007.

[cinemaodyssey]

Thank you for that contribution!

[Terry D]

Originally Posted by Expos 1969-2004

Gene Roof appeared in 8 games for the Montreal Expos in 1983.
This picture is actually on sale on eBay by seller signatures4u!

Thanks, beautiful shot.

[tnfoto]

Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Looking through the Missing Players spreadsheet, I observed that there is a note that Quinlan may be pictured in the 1890 Lovell Arms team photo. Looking through some of the box scores and newspapers of the time, I think there's a really good chance this is him. He played most of the year in the Outfield and a few games at Catcher. This mirrors his major league experience exactly. He was from Marlborough, which was a city on the schedule for Lovell in the early part of the season. The team featured several players who would go on to appear in the majors, namely Toby Lyons and Henry Burrell.

This was the image I noted in the Missing Player List description. When I added the comment, I had located box scores that included multiple players named Quinlan playing in the area, including, ironically enough, another Frank Quinlan. Because I couldn't definitively identify the Lovell Arms player at the time, I didn't accept the image as the major leaguer. To be honest, I haven't focused on Quinlan for some time and would love to find some proof that this Quinlan is or is not our major leaguer.

[Chickazoola]

Originally Posted by tnfoto

This was the image I noted in the Missing Player List description. When I added the comment, I had located box scores that included multiple players named Quinlan playing in the area, including, ironically enough, another Frank Quinlan. Because I couldn't definitively identify the Lovell Arms player at the time, I didn't accept the image as the major leaguer. To be honest, I haven't focused on Quinlan for some time and would love to find some proof that this Quinlan is or is not our major leaguer.

Regarding Kane's ID, earlier this year, Kane's great-granddaughter got in touch with the Biographical Committee to clarify that the William Jeremiah Kane was not the ballplayer, rather it was Jerry Jeremiah Kane. That prompted us to do some digging and I found an obituary for Jerry J. Kane that confirms he was the ballplayer.

That is why the ID got changed. Reading the New York Clipper bio that Cusick mentioned, he is clearly mentioned as William Kane, but all contemporary St. Louis papers call the catcher Jerry Kane and later notes call the playery Jerry J. Kane. Based on the obit, the player would appear to be Jerry J. Kane not William J. Kane. That is probably where the wires got crossed.

I would agree with Cusick, that the woodcut is the ballplayer, hopefully we can track down another image for comparison at some point. On a plus side, Jerry J. Kane was a popular figure in St. Louis/East St. Louis, so would not be surprised to see his photo in one of the St. Louis papers.

Regarding the Quinlan image, I spent a lot of time on that one in the past. It's a confusing case in the least, as there are multiple Quinlans playing in the Boston area at the time. Most damningly on May 10, 1890, the Marlboro club played the Lovell Arms club and each side featured a Quinlan. Since multiple notes have Quinlan being from Marlboro, I am hesitant to definitively ID the Lovell Arms player as Quinlan. There is a Quinlan who regularly plays the outfield for Lovell Arms in 1890 and a Quinlan for the Marlboros all year as well.

So not ruling it out, but I don't think the Lovell Arms woodcut as lovely as it is, features our guy. On the plus side, Frank Quinlan did play in the minors in New England for a few years, including a full season with Pawtucket in 1892, so he wasn't just just some scrub emergency replacement, but an actual prospect. He may yet be in a team photo.

[Jabez54]

Awesome!!
Many thanks, Cusick for sharing your find!!

[Merkle923]

Another college football star making a one at bat cameo in the '30s.

St. Mary's football star, nickname coming from his sangfroid on the gridiron, signed by the Tigers as an outfielder after graduation in 1934 and getting a pinch-hit shot on May 31in the ninth inning of an 11-3 loss to St. Louis.

Wilson went down to Sioux City and then Duluth and before the year was over, his baseball career was finished.

This image popped up in the Windsor Star of May 24, 1934 at the invaluable Newspapers.com site https://www.newspapers.com/image/501...ers&match=1and I've cleaned it up a little.

[cinemaodyssey]

Merkle's getting in on the Remini game! Nice find.

[Terry D]

During his long tenure as the Dodgers' third baseman, Ron Cey hit for consistently good power and played respectable defense as well. By the early 80s, the old Cey-Lopes-Garvey-Russell infield was old and the Dodger management planned to phase in younger players. Lopes went first, his place being taken by Steve Sax. Garvey was the next to be replaced, yielding his spot to Greg Brock. Cey went to the Cubs at the same time, but replacing him was not so easy. German Rivera posted fairish numbers in the low minors but didn't look like a hot prospect until '83, when he was promoted to AAA Albuquerque and had a monster year there. At that time the Dodgers did not yet realize how much the Albuquerque park inflated offensive statistics, and as a consequence they tended to overvalue not only Rivera but a number of other prospects of that era--Greg Brock, Franklin Stubbs, etc. Rivera played about half a season's worth of 3B for the Dodgers in '84, hitting .260 and posting a .678 OPS. LA lost confidence in Rivera as a result and traded him to Houston, where he hit just .194 in 1985, his last year in the bigs. Images of Rivera as an Astro are scarce for some reason. The only one I had seen until lately was a small, blurred black and white photo on an Astros fan site. Here is an alternative, a Historic Images photograph offered recently on ebay.

[cinemaodyssey]

I didn't have anything for Lewis on the 1983 Minnesota Twins. I'm not generally a fan of cap swapping, but this one (from a 1983 minor league card of his) run through the Remini app turned out remarkably good.

[Jabez54]

That's an awesome work, CO!!

[Rube]

His only year with the Redsox