Stats Problem

Ruthian23 · 05-31-2006, 08:23 PM

I imported the 2005 teams from the Lahman Database. I'm playing as the Yankees. After the first game of the 2005 season, Alex Rodriguez had 163 games played in 2005. Instead of replaying 2005, it seems to be adding the statistics on TOP of what already happened in 2005. It asked me what year I wanted to start in when I was setting up the league, but the only option was "2005." This probably isn't going to be my main league, so it's not a huge deal, but if I play several years in this, my league records are going to be skewed by the 80+ HR years by guys like Pujols and A-rod when you add two 2005s together. Did I do something wrong or is this a bug? If it was me, can I fix it?

(Also, while I'm at it, I managed the first game, but the "Manage" option isn't there for the second game.

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battists · 05-31-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruthian23

I imported the 2005 teams from the Lahman Database. I'm playing as the Yankees. After the first game of the 2005 season, Alex Rodriguez had 163 games played in 2005. Instead of replaying 2005, it seems to be adding the statistics on TOP of what already happened in 2005. It asked me what year I wanted to start in when I was setting up the league, but the only option was "2005." This probably isn't going to be my main league, so it's not a huge deal, but if I play several years in this, my league records are going to be skewed by the 80+ HR years by guys like Pujols and A-rod when you add two 2005s together. Did I do something wrong or is this a bug? If it was me, can I fix it?

(Also, while I'm at it, I managed the first game, but the "Manage" option isn't there for the second game.

)

You have to sim the rest of the current day before the next game will be "manageable".

As for the rest...I need someone with more historical expertise to look at this.

Anyone?

Ruthian23 · 05-31-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

You have to sim the rest of the current day before the next game will be "manageable".

As for the rest...I need someone with more historical expertise to look at this.

Anyone?

Yeah, I tried that. I fixed that part, though. I had two human GMs (one of whom is unemployed, the other isn't, because I messed up creating the first one), and for some reason it defaulted back to the unemployed one, which is why I couldn't manage. Thanks, though-that's what I thought it was at first, too.

Another problem that I'm having is that it keeps saying that it's a grounder to short, but my 2B keeps fielding them. One time, on a DP ball, it was a grounder to second and he "flipped" to himself and then threw to first to complete the DP. It's not happening every time, though, just every once in a while.

Ruthian23 · 06-01-2006, 11:20 AM

Anyone know what's going on with my stats issue?

battists · 06-01-2006, 09:38 PM

I logged this for you. Just wanted to keep you on your toes. #1531

blackrussian · 06-02-2006, 03:22 AM

im having this problem as well. i started w/ the 2005 MLB imported from the lahman db and added the built in japanese league. i decided to auto-sim the full season, and when i started the MLB players 2005 stats rolled over into the new OOTP season (eg, Alex Rodriguez started w/48 HR's).

I rolled over into next year to check players stat lines for the simmed season and sure enough they were messed up (the 2005 real-life totals added to the simmed totals, except games played was totally different, usually low like 22 or 45 for every day batters).

redmarkYankees · 06-02-2006, 03:30 AM

In the add historical league dialog, you're asked which year to import - so you select 2005. It sounds like you've then ticked the box underneath, which is "keep stats for this year", or similar. So, the game starts with players including their 2005 stats.

When the initial import finishes and it takes you back to the general 'create universe' screen, check the start date for your world - change it to 2006. Then you'll have players with 2005 stats, but your league starts in 2006.

redmarkYankees · 06-02-2006, 03:34 AM

dola

What would be nice is that if you tick the 'keep stats' box for the roster year you're importing, the league start year defaults to year + 1, not the same year.

blackrussian · 06-02-2006, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by redmarkYankees

dola

What would be nice is that if you tick the 'keep stats' box for the roster year you're importing, the league start year defaults to year + 1, not the same year.

exactly. i guess for now, ill just have to disabled the include 2005 stats when i import the lahman league.

redmarkYankees · 06-02-2006, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by blackrussian

exactly. i guess for now, ill just have to disabled the include 2005 stats when i import the lahman league.

Or remember to set the actual game start year to 2006 after the import.

battists · 06-02-2006, 08:31 AM

OK, now redmark has me confused. This stuff is tough for me, because I don't usually play historicals.

Can you guys confirm, is the game:

a. behaving correctly, it's just that the settings are a little confusing, or
b. not behaving correctly, but there is a workaround

?

redmarkYankees · 06-02-2006, 09:04 AM

Behaving correctly, basically - but one small change could help.

If you select year X (let's say 2005) within the database import dialog, you have the choice of "keeping stats for selected year", or not. Obviously, it only makes sense to keep the stats if you intend to have the league start a year later. Once the setup has done the initial historical import, it takes you back to the "New Game" setup, where you can add minor leagues, amend rules/options etc. At this point, you have the opportunity to change the Start Year (if you amend before importing, it gets changed anyway).

Currently, this Start Year is defaulting to the year of import, which makes sense for the vast majority of historical league imports. However, until there are 2006 rosters available, some people will use Lahman to import an end-of-season 2005 roster - keeping the 2005 stats. For these users, a 2006 start is the most logical.

So, I'd suggest that IF the 'keep stats...' checkbox is checked, then the Game Start Year should default to Year of Import +1 ELSE Game Start Year = Year of Import.

Effectively, if you check the 'keep stats' option, you're importing an end-of-season roster and want the start year to increment by 1. If you don't check it, you're importing a start of year roster.

battists · 06-05-2006, 11:47 AM

Alright, as an update, Markus is not going to fix anything as a "bug" in this patch. However, I will pass along redmark's suggestions for future updates as a "feature request."

I hope that works out OK for everyone.

06-02-2006, 03:22 AM	#6
blackrussian All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 954	im having this problem as well. i started w/ the 2005 MLB imported from the lahman db and added the built in japanese league. i decided to auto-sim the full season, and when i started the MLB players 2005 stats rolled over into the new OOTP season (eg, Alex Rodriguez started w/48 HR's). I rolled over into next year to check players stat lines for the simmed season and sure enough they were messed up (the 2005 real-life totals added to the simmed totals, except games played was totally different, usually low like 22 or 45 for every day batters). __________________ v'

06-02-2006, 03:30 AM	#7
redmarkYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,283	In the add historical league dialog, you're asked which year to import - so you select 2005. It sounds like you've then ticked the box underneath, which is "keep stats for this year", or similar. So, the game starts with players including their 2005 stats. When the initial import finishes and it takes you back to the general 'create universe' screen, check the start date for your world - change it to 2006. Then you'll have players with 2005 stats, but your league starts in 2006. __________________ In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. George Orwell

06-02-2006, 03:34 AM	#8
redmarkYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,283	dola What would be nice is that if you tick the 'keep stats' box for the roster year you're importing, the league start year defaults to year + 1, not the same year. __________________ In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. George Orwell

06-02-2006, 09:04 AM	#12
redmarkYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,283	Behaving correctly, basically - but one small change could help. If you select year X (let's say 2005) within the database import dialog, you have the choice of "keeping stats for selected year", or not. Obviously, it only makes sense to keep the stats if you intend to have the league start a year later. Once the setup has done the initial historical import, it takes you back to the "New Game" setup, where you can add minor leagues, amend rules/options etc. At this point, you have the opportunity to change the Start Year (if you amend before importing, it gets changed anyway). Currently, this Start Year is defaulting to the year of import, which makes sense for the vast majority of historical league imports. However, until there are 2006 rosters available, some people will use Lahman to import an end-of-season 2005 roster - keeping the 2005 stats. For these users, a 2006 start is the most logical. So, I'd suggest that IF the 'keep stats...' checkbox is checked, then the Game Start Year should default to Year of Import +1 ELSE Game Start Year = Year of Import. Effectively, if you check the 'keep stats' option, you're importing an end-of-season roster and want the start year to increment by 1. If you don't check it, you're importing a start of year roster. __________________ In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. George Orwell

05-31-2006, 08:23 PM	#1
Ruthian23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 740	Stats Problem I imported the 2005 teams from the Lahman Database. I'm playing as the Yankees. After the first game of the 2005 season, Alex Rodriguez had 163 games played in 2005. Instead of replaying 2005, it seems to be adding the statistics on TOP of what already happened in 2005. It asked me what year I wanted to start in when I was setting up the league, but the only option was "2005." This probably isn't going to be my main league, so it's not a huge deal, but if I play several years in this, my league records are going to be skewed by the 80+ HR years by guys like Pujols and A-rod when you add two 2005s together. Did I do something wrong or is this a bug? If it was me, can I fix it? (Also, while I'm at it, I managed the first game, but the "Manage" option isn't there for the second game. ) Last edited by Ruthian23; 05-31-2006 at 08:27 PM.

06-01-2006, 11:20 AM	#4
Ruthian23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 740	Anyone know what's going on with my stats issue?

06-01-2006, 09:38 PM	#5
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 7	I logged this for you. Just wanted to keep you on your toes. #1531

06-02-2006, 08:31 AM	#11
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 7	OK, now redmark has me confused. This stuff is tough for me, because I don't usually play historicals. Can you guys confirm, is the game: a. behaving correctly, it's just that the settings are a little confusing, or b. not behaving correctly, but there is a workaround ?

06-05-2006, 11:47 AM	#13
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 7	Alright, as an update, Markus is not going to fix anything as a "bug" in this patch. However, I will pass along redmark's suggestions for future updates as a "feature request." I hope that works out OK for everyone.