Repeatable Crash with Video

Ankit · 06-06-2006, 10:34 PM

I can reproduce this crash (reboots the computer automatically) at will now and unfortunately, it is a big enough crash that it has rendered the game unplayable for me. I get this crash when I do this:

New Game => Check MAL in "Select Standard Leagues" => Give a name to my game: "Majors" or "Major Leagues" or something else. => Click "Start Game", this gets me the Create Manager screen. I change my nationality to "Indian" and Year of Birth to 1980. => Hit "OK".

When it gets to Creating Logos and it reaches 52%, it crashes, resulting in the computer rebooting automatically. It is happening everytime. Below is a video of this crash in case it helps you to diagnose the problem.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...41855764417727

The video is about 3 minutes long and a bit shaky as I am trying to film with my left hand and create the league with the right.

One time, it gave me a BSOD (in WinXP SP2, no less), which I am attaching as a pic, in case that might help.

I would love to play this game but I can't due to the crashes...

Ankit · 06-06-2006, 10:44 PM

Some info on my system:

I am running Windows XP SP2 on an AMD Athlon 1800+ w/ 1 GB RAM. I have been able to reproduce this crash with my anti-virus software activated and while it was disabled. No other major programs were running at the time except for programs minimized in the System Tray: Skype, Yahoo IM, and Firewall.

Erik W. · 06-06-2006, 10:47 PM

Sounds like either file corruption or a dying HDD.

Try uninstalling/reinstalling the game and see if it helps. Make sure to completely delete the folder before reinstalling.

Erik W. · 06-06-2006, 10:49 PM

Well, a bad IDE controller or motherboard is possible, too, given the fact that error+auto-reboot was the symptom when my PC died. Of course, that was on everything, and not just one function of one app.

Ankit · 06-06-2006, 11:09 PM

No change of a bad IDE controller or MB as this crash happens only with OOTP 2006. I can play plenty of other games (OOTP 6.5, PureSim 2007, Brian Lara Cricket 2005, Civ 4, MVP Baseball 2005) and have experience no such problems.

Raidergoo · 06-06-2006, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankit

I can reproduce this crash (reboots the computer automatically) at will now and unfortunately, it is a big enough crash that it has rendered the game unplayable for me. I get this crash when I do this:

New Game => Check MAL in "Select Standard Leagues" => Give a name to my game: "Majors" or "Major Leagues" or something else. => Click "Start Game", this gets me the Create Manager screen. I change my nationality to "Indian" and Year of Birth to 1980. => Hit "OK".

OK, so I will try this next . . .and report back as I have similar specs and a patch applied. You'll have to be a bit patient, as the test season being run right now is massive.

Edit:
At least you don't ask for 64 teams with 5 sets of minors .

Raidergoo · 06-07-2006, 12:08 AM

I was able to create a manager in a MAL league born in 1980 using a patch candidate.

Raidergoo · 06-07-2006, 10:31 PM

Any news on this install?

Ankit · 06-07-2006, 10:40 PM

Terrible... Before I applied the patch, I uninstalled the game, and reinstalled it to make sure there would be no corrupted files. Once the patch was applied, I tried to create a new league and when it got to "Creating Logos - 52%", the computer rebooted. The league had been saved by this time though so I was able to load once the computer started back up. Turns out that it had calculated my age wrong, see pic below.

Then, I tried to create a Historical league by clicking on "Add a Historical Major League". It sees the Lahman DB correctly, loads it correctly too. Then, the moment it tries to import players, it crashes. I have tried all evening and everytime, its the same thing.

I am extremely frustrated as my time has been totally wasted...

Ankit · 06-07-2006, 10:43 PM

I also tried to create MAL and Historical leagues with all non-essential programs shut down (i.e., I only had a Network Connection icon in the Systray active, no other program except OOTP 2006. I even shutdown firewall and anti-virus).

Raidergoo · 06-07-2006, 10:49 PM

I'll make an ankit2 league and attempt again to duplicate.

Ankit · 06-07-2006, 10:53 PM

I am running this on an AMD-based PC, could that be a problem?

Raidergoo · 06-07-2006, 10:58 PM

Could be . . .please post some basic system specs

LarryP · 06-07-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankit

I also tried to create MAL and Historical leagues with all non-essential programs shut down (i.e., I only had a Network Connection icon in the Systray active, no other program except OOTP 2006. I even shutdown firewall and anti-virus).

I had a similar problem as you have with just one game, MVP Baseball 2005. I could not save my profile! Every other game played fine, just MVP. Finally I found the problem. After running chkdsk I had some bad sectors. After using PartitionMagic and some trickery, I got around them and reinstalled MVP. Works flawless now. Apparently that part of the game was at the bad sectors part.

LarryP.

Ankit · 06-07-2006, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Could be . . .please post some basic system specs

See post #2 above. Let me know if you need more info.

Raidergoo · 06-07-2006, 11:08 PM

Having a very hard time duplicating error. . .

Raidergoo · 06-07-2006, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankit

See post #2 above. Let me know if you need more info.

That was an obvious mistake on my part. That's what I was driving at.

Going to have to ask for more eyeballs.

I have asked for additional resources on this issue.

Ankit · 06-07-2006, 11:43 PM

Installed the game on my laptop (Intel Pentium IV, 2.4 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ATI Mobility M6 Video Chip, WinXP SP2). Creating a historical league and as well as an MAL standard league worked like a charm... Same programs running in the background as I have on my desktop. Also, did the ChkDsk thing on my Desktop and had no hard drive errors.

Thinking it may be an AMD vs. Intel CPU issue...

Raidergoo · 06-08-2006, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankit

Installed the game on my laptop (Intel Pentium IV, 2.4 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ATI Mobility M6 Video Chip, WinXP SP2). Creating a historical league and as well as an MAL standard league worked like a charm... Same programs running in the background as I have on my desktop. Also, did the ChkDsk thing on my Desktop and had no hard drive errors.

Thinking it may be an AMD vs. Intel CPU issue...

#1 good to hear plan B is working. when possible, give your views on game

#2 the CPU is a good operating hypothesis

Sleep now, hopefully others will chime in soon.

Comedian2004 · 06-08-2006, 12:09 AM

According to Bill Gates:

CAUSE
This behavior may occur if one of the following conditions is true:

• One or more of the random access memory (RAM) modules that are installed on your computer are faulty.
• The RAM configuration is incompatible with Windows XP.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315335

06-06-2006, 10:47 PM	#3
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	Sounds like either file corruption or a dying HDD. Try uninstalling/reinstalling the game and see if it helps. Make sure to completely delete the folder before reinstalling. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

06-06-2006, 10:49 PM	#4
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	Well, a bad IDE controller or motherboard is possible, too, given the fact that error+auto-reboot was the symptom when my PC died. Of course, that was on everything, and not just one function of one app. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

06-06-2006, 11:09 PM	#5
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	No change of a bad IDE controller or MB as this crash happens only with OOTP 2006. I can play plenty of other games (OOTP 6.5, PureSim 2007, Brian Lara Cricket 2005, Civ 4, MVP Baseball 2005) and have experience no such problems. __________________ Last edited by Ankit; 06-06-2006 at 11:33 PM.

06-07-2006, 12:08 AM	#7
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	I was able to create a manager in a MAL league born in 1980 using a patch candidate. Last edited by Raidergoo; 04-17-2007 at 11:03 AM.

06-07-2006, 10:40 PM	#9
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	Terrible... Before I applied the patch, I uninstalled the game, and reinstalled it to make sure there would be no corrupted files. Once the patch was applied, I tried to create a new league and when it got to "Creating Logos - 52%", the computer rebooted. The league had been saved by this time though so I was able to load once the computer started back up. Turns out that it had calculated my age wrong, see pic below. Then, I tried to create a Historical league by clicking on "Add a Historical Major League". It sees the Lahman DB correctly, loads it correctly too. Then, the moment it tries to import players, it crashes. I have tried all evening and everytime, its the same thing. I am extremely frustrated as my time has been totally wasted... Attached Images __________________

06-06-2006, 10:34 PM	#1
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	Repeatable Crash with Video I can reproduce this crash (reboots the computer automatically) at will now and unfortunately, it is a big enough crash that it has rendered the game unplayable for me. I get this crash when I do this: New Game => Check MAL in "Select Standard Leagues" => Give a name to my game: "Majors" or "Major Leagues" or something else. => Click "Start Game", this gets me the Create Manager screen. I change my nationality to "Indian" and Year of Birth to 1980. => Hit "OK". When it gets to Creating Logos and it reaches 52%, it crashes, resulting in the computer rebooting automatically. It is happening everytime. Below is a video of this crash in case it helps you to diagnose the problem. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...41855764417727 The video is about 3 minutes long and a bit shaky as I am trying to film with my left hand and create the league with the right. One time, it gave me a BSOD (in WinXP SP2, no less), which I am attaching as a pic, in case that might help. I would love to play this game but I can't due to the crashes... Attached Images __________________

06-06-2006, 10:44 PM	#2
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	Some info on my system: I am running Windows XP SP2 on an AMD Athlon 1800+ w/ 1 GB RAM. I have been able to reproduce this crash with my anti-virus software activated and while it was disabled. No other major programs were running at the time except for programs minimized in the System Tray: Skype, Yahoo IM, and Firewall. __________________

06-07-2006, 10:31 PM	#8
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	Any news on this install?

06-07-2006, 10:43 PM	#10
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	I also tried to create MAL and Historical leagues with all non-essential programs shut down (i.e., I only had a Network Connection icon in the Systray active, no other program except OOTP 2006. I even shutdown firewall and anti-virus). __________________

06-07-2006, 10:49 PM	#11
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	I'll make an ankit2 league and attempt again to duplicate.

06-07-2006, 10:53 PM	#12
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	I am running this on an AMD-based PC, could that be a problem? __________________

06-07-2006, 10:58 PM	#13
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	Could be . . .please post some basic system specs

06-07-2006, 11:08 PM	#16
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	Having a very hard time duplicating error. . . Last edited by Raidergoo; 04-17-2007 at 11:03 AM.

06-07-2006, 11:43 PM	#18
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	Installed the game on my laptop (Intel Pentium IV, 2.4 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ATI Mobility M6 Video Chip, WinXP SP2). Creating a historical league and as well as an MAL standard league worked like a charm... Same programs running in the background as I have on my desktop. Also, did the ChkDsk thing on my Desktop and had no hard drive errors. Thinking it may be an AMD vs. Intel CPU issue... __________________ Last edited by Ankit; 06-07-2006 at 11:45 PM.

06-08-2006, 12:09 AM	#20
Comedian2004 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In a house in Saint Cloud, Florida. Posts: 7,085	According to Bill Gates: CAUSE This behavior may occur if one of the following conditions is true: • One or more of the random access memory (RAM) modules that are installed on your computer are faulty. • The RAM configuration is incompatible with Windows XP. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315335 __________________ Like BLUES? Visit www.smokestacklightnin.com, you will LOVE it! New show every Monday!! New Blues HOF![/COLOR][/FONT]