MAJOR Rules bug...

jbsnadb · 06-11-2006, 07:57 PM

A pop-up, on the infield with runners on first and second, turned into an RBI single.

While generally improbable, the ump had declared it an infield fly, meaning the batter is automatically out and the runners are prohibited from advancing. Now, I still have runners on first and second, but a run has scored.

RickJay · 06-11-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jbsnadb

While generally improbable, the ump had declared it an infield fly, meaning the batter is automatically out and the runners are prohibited from advancing. Now, I still have runners on first and second, but a run has scored.

You're half right, but half don't understand the rule. The batter should have been out automatically. However, there is no rule against the runners advancing. An infield fly is still a live ball, and the runners can advance at their own risk, just the same as any ball hit into the air. The ONLY thing the infield fly rule does is it makes the batter instantly out.

So if a fielder failed to catch the ball and it skipped away from him it's perfectly possible that a runner could have scored. What's NOT possible is that the batter reached base.

This is covered under Rule 2.00, Definitions, "Infield Fly."

sporr · 06-11-2006, 09:53 PM

Noted

TT 1831

Jason · 06-11-2006, 09:59 PM

Good catch.

RickJay · 06-11-2006, 10:24 PM

I should clarify my answer; the calling of an infield fly makes the batter instantly out assuming the ball lands fair. If the ball lands foul, the call is retroactively cancelled. So if the ball strikes the ground and goes foul before it gets past a base, it's just a foul ball, and the batter goes back to bat, even if the umpire called an infield fly.

(this is why infielders should always catch the ball even if the IFR is called - because the ball could spin out foul, or land foul if it's close to the line.)

fantom1979 · 07-05-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

In our efforts to keep you all informed on the latest patch developments, here is the latest news from London.

Fixes / Improvements

#1831 - fixed infield fly rule calls

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battists · 07-25-2006, 10:32 AM

Claimed fixed!

Steve

06-11-2006, 07:57 PM	#1
jbsnadb All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,098	MAJOR Rules bug... A pop-up, on the infield with runners on first and second, turned into an RBI single. While generally improbable, the ump had declared it an infield fly, meaning the batter is automatically out and the runners are prohibited from advancing. Now, I still have runners on first and second, but a run has scored.

06-11-2006, 09:53 PM	#3
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Noted TT 1831

06-11-2006, 09:59 PM	#4
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,845	Good catch.

06-11-2006, 10:24 PM	#5
RickJay Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 23	I should clarify my answer; the calling of an infield fly makes the batter instantly out assuming the ball lands fair. If the ball lands foul, the call is retroactively cancelled. So if the ball strikes the ground and goes foul before it gets past a base, it's just a foul ball, and the batter goes back to bat, even if the umpire called an infield fly. (this is why infielders should always catch the ball even if the IFR is called - because the ball could spin out foul, or land foul if it's close to the line.)

07-25-2006, 10:32 AM	#7
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Claimed fixed! Steve