New (?) text PbP error

Burto1945 · 10-08-2006, 03:18 AM

I was just playing out a spring training game, and had my leadoff hitter steal second. The next pitch (pitch-by-pitch) I saw that the pitcher turned toward first, but wait, there is a balk. The pitcher went to far towards the plate before throwing to first. But, there was nobody on first. I wish I had the actual play-by-play, and I tried to highlight it to cut & paste, but that counted counted as a click, and it went to the next play. Not thinking there, oh well. And if this has been logged already, sorry, I didn't see it before.

disposableheros · 10-08-2006, 01:50 PM

this is just a case of this particular "balk" object being used without a condition that a man be on first. this can easily be fixed using the text editor.

(not that you should have to fix it, but if it bothers you, you could)

M's rule · 10-09-2006, 12:56 AM

The problem occurs because three of the messages in the Balk category specifically mention first base, and they have no condition attached to them that requires a runner to be present at first base.

You can fix the problem in your own XML file in one of two ways: Either delete the problematic messages, which are the first three text objects in category 17, or insert the condition that requires a runner to be on first base before the message can be called.

The text that needs to be changed (or deleted) is replicated below. After you open the XML file, search from the beginning of the file for "17" (including the quotes), and you’ll find the line that reads <TEXT_CATEGORY id="17">

Now, select the three text objects that appear directly following that line, which are:

<TEXT_OBJECT id="54" text="Here\'s the delivery...(nl)No, it\'s a move to first...(nl)The umpire calls a balk!(nl)He\'s saying that [%personname L] swung his lead foot past the rubber(nl)before he tried to pick off the runner."/>
<TEXT_OBJECT id="1407" text="looks to first...(nl)[%personname L] starts to throw to first but decides against it...The umpire stops play...(nl)A balk has been called. "/>
<TEXT_OBJECT id="6258" text="throw to first base...(and it looks like [%personname L] has the runner caught!(nl)What an excellent pickoff move!(nl)Wait...(nl)There\'s a break in the action...(nl)The umpire has declared that [%personname L] didn\'t step directly toward the base when he threw the ball.(nl)That\'s going to be a balk."/>

If you want to delete them, just hit the appropriate key. If you want to add the necessary condition, replace the selected text with the following text.

<TEXT_OBJECT id="54" text="Here\'s the delivery...(nl)No, it\'s a move to first...(nl)The umpire calls a balk!(nl)He\'s saying that [%personname L] swung his lead foot past the rubber(nl)before he tried to pick off the runner."/>
<TEXT_CONDITION id="48" value="1"/>
</TEXT_OBJECT>
<TEXT_OBJECT id="1407" text="looks to first...(nl)[%personname L] starts to throw to first but decides against it...The umpire stops play...(nl)A balk has been called. "/>
<TEXT_CONDITION id="48" value="1"/>
</TEXT_OBJECT>
<TEXT_OBJECT id="6258" text="throw to first base...(and it looks like [%personname L] has the runner caught!(nl)What an excellent pickoff move!(nl)Wait...(nl)There\'s a break in the action...(nl)The umpire has declared that [%personname L] didn\'t step directly toward the base when he threw the ball.(nl)That\'s going to be a balk."/>
<TEXT_CONDITION id="48" value="1"/>
</TEXT_OBJECT>

Any questions, post here or send me a PM.

M's rule · 10-09-2006, 01:07 AM

Apologies for that last post--apparently, text copied from the XML file doesn't show up (for some weird reason). If you want to fix this problem, send me a PM and I'll explain.

Burto1945 · 10-09-2006, 02:45 AM

Thanks guys, I don't need to change it, its not that big a deal, I just wanted to point it out for future versions. Thanks, though.

disposableheros · 10-09-2006, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M's rule

The problem occurs because three of the messages in the Balk category specifically mention first base, and they have no condition attached to them that requires a runner to be present at first base.

You can fix the problem in your own XML file in one of two ways: Either delete the problematic messages, which are the first three text objects in category 17, or insert the condition that requires a runner to be on first base before the message can be called.

The text that needs to be changed (or deleted) is replicated below. After you open the XML file, search from the beginning of the file for "17" (including the quotes), and you’ll find the line that reads <TEXT_CATEGORY id=17>

Now, select the three text objects that appear directly following that line, which are:

<TEXT_OBJECT id=54 text="Here\'s the delivery...(nl)No, it\'s a move to first...(nl)The umpire calls a balk!(nl)He\'s saying that [%personname L] swung his lead foot past the rubber(nl)before he tried to pick off the runner." />
<TEXT_OBJECT id=1407 text="looks to first...(nl)[%personname L] starts to throw to first but decides against it...The umpire stops play...(nl)A balk has been called. " />
<TEXT_OBJECT id=6258 text="throw to first base...(and it looks like [%personname L] has the runner caught!(nl)What an excellent pickoff move!(nl)Wait...(nl)There\'s a break in the action...(nl)The umpire has declared that [%personname L] didn\'t step directly toward the base when he threw the ball.(nl)That\'s going to be a balk." />

If you want to delete them, just hit the appropriate key. If you want to add the necessary condition, replace the selected text with the following text.

<TEXT_OBJECT id=54 text="Here\'s the delivery...(nl)No, it\'s a move to first...(nl)The umpire calls a balk!(nl)He\'s saying that [%personname L] swung his lead foot past the rubber(nl)before he tried to pick off the runner." />
<TEXT_CONDITION id=48 value="1" />
</TEXT_OBJECT>
<TEXT_OBJECT id=1407 text="looks to first...(nl)[%personname L] starts to throw to first but decides against it...The umpire stops play...(nl)A balk has been called. " />
<TEXT_CONDITION id=48 value="1" />
</TEXT_OBJECT>
<TEXT_OBJECT id=6258 text="throw to first base...(and it looks like [%personname L] has the runner caught!(nl)What an excellent pickoff move!(nl)Wait...(nl)There\'s a break in the action...(nl)The umpire has declared that [%personname L] didn\'t step directly toward the base when he threw the ball.(nl)That\'s going to be a balk." />
<TEXT_CONDITION id=48 value="1" />
</TEXT_OBJECT>

Any questions, post here or send me a PM.

if you use the OTE, you just open the file and navigate to the "balk" category.

the OTE is one of the best mods out there. i hope the revisions are still in the works. http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=123990

battists · 10-28-2006, 05:40 PM

This has also been fixed on the Markus side of things, so it will be resolved in the 2007 version of the game.

Thanks!

Steve

10-08-2006, 03:18 AM	#1
Burto1945 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 144	New (?) text PbP error I was just playing out a spring training game, and had my leadoff hitter steal second. The next pitch (pitch-by-pitch) I saw that the pitcher turned toward first, but wait, there is a balk. The pitcher went to far towards the plate before throwing to first. But, there was nobody on first. I wish I had the actual play-by-play, and I tried to highlight it to cut & paste, but that counted counted as a click, and it went to the next play. Not thinking there, oh well. And if this has been logged already, sorry, I didn't see it before. __________________ "Baseball. The Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers could be playing for the championship, and I'd rather be here watching the Angels and Yankees." --John Wooden, on his favorite sport (Los Angeles Times, 2005)

10-08-2006, 01:50 PM	#2
disposableheros Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,332	this is just a case of this particular "balk" object being used without a condition that a man be on first. this can easily be fixed using the text editor. (not that you should have to fix it, but if it bothers you, you could) __________________ 2 Wild Cards, 11 Division Champs, 4 League Champs, 3 World Champs, and 3 Best GM awards Baseball Maelstrom - New York Mets - 180-149 .547 Corporate League Baseball - Coke Buzz - 889-649 .578 Western Hemisphere Baseball League - Santiago Saints - 672-793 .459 Record - 2428-2271 .517

10-09-2006, 12:56 AM	#3
M's rule All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 925	The problem occurs because three of the messages in the Balk category specifically mention first base, and they have no condition attached to them that requires a runner to be present at first base. You can fix the problem in your own XML file in one of two ways: Either delete the problematic messages, which are the first three text objects in category 17, or insert the condition that requires a runner to be on first base before the message can be called. The text that needs to be changed (or deleted) is replicated below. After you open the XML file, search from the beginning of the file for "17" (including the quotes), and you’ll find the line that reads <TEXT_CATEGORY id="17"> Now, select the three text objects that appear directly following that line, which are: <TEXT_OBJECT id="54" text="Here\'s the delivery...(nl)No, it\'s a move to first...(nl)The umpire calls a balk!(nl)He\'s saying that [%personname L] swung his lead foot past the rubber(nl)before he tried to pick off the runner."/> <TEXT_OBJECT id="1407" text="looks to first...(nl)[%personname L] starts to throw to first but decides against it...The umpire stops play...(nl)A balk has been called. "/> <TEXT_OBJECT id="6258" text="throw to first base...(and it looks like [%personname L] has the runner caught!(nl)What an excellent pickoff move!(nl)Wait...(nl)There\'s a break in the action...(nl)The umpire has declared that [%personname L] didn\'t step directly toward the base when he threw the ball.(nl)That\'s going to be a balk."/> If you want to delete them, just hit the appropriate key. If you want to add the necessary condition, replace the selected text with the following text. <TEXT_OBJECT id="54" text="Here\'s the delivery...(nl)No, it\'s a move to first...(nl)The umpire calls a balk!(nl)He\'s saying that [%personname L] swung his lead foot past the rubber(nl)before he tried to pick off the runner."/> <TEXT_CONDITION id="48" value="1"/> </TEXT_OBJECT> <TEXT_OBJECT id="1407" text="looks to first...(nl)[%personname L] starts to throw to first but decides against it...The umpire stops play...(nl)A balk has been called. "/> <TEXT_CONDITION id="48" value="1"/> </TEXT_OBJECT> <TEXT_OBJECT id="6258" text="throw to first base...(and it looks like [%personname L] has the runner caught!(nl)What an excellent pickoff move!(nl)Wait...(nl)There\'s a break in the action...(nl)The umpire has declared that [%personname L] didn\'t step directly toward the base when he threw the ball.(nl)That\'s going to be a balk."/> <TEXT_CONDITION id="48" value="1"/> </TEXT_OBJECT> Any questions, post here or send me a PM. Last edited by M's rule; 10-09-2006 at 01:04 AM.

10-09-2006, 02:45 AM	#5
Burto1945 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 144	Thanks guys, I don't need to change it, its not that big a deal, I just wanted to point it out for future versions. Thanks, though. __________________ "Baseball. The Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers could be playing for the championship, and I'd rather be here watching the Angels and Yankees." --John Wooden, on his favorite sport (Los Angeles Times, 2005)

10-09-2006, 01:07 AM	#4
M's rule All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 925	Apologies for that last post--apparently, text copied from the XML file doesn't show up (for some weird reason). If you want to fix this problem, send me a PM and I'll explain.

10-28-2006, 05:40 PM	#7
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	This has also been fixed on the Markus side of things, so it will be resolved in the 2007 version of the game. Thanks! Steve