3209 - My entire pitching staff listed as SP?

edm · 03-27-2007, 09:25 PM

I just finished my first season and free agency is about to start. So I was reviewing my pitching staff, and for some reason all my pitchers changed to starting pitchers, including my closer and middle relievers.

Anyone else seen this happen? I did a quick search on the board, but didn't see it mentioned.

rasnell · 03-28-2007, 05:42 AM

I saw the reverse of this problem in beta testing where starters were all converted to middle relievers.

Can you tell me more about what kind of league (historical?) and what the endurance ratings are for your pitchers, whether you have player recalc on and whether you're using scouts?

edm · 03-28-2007, 12:13 PM

It was an imported 2006 league from the Lehman Database. Scouts and coaches are disabled. All ratings are 1-10. 'Ratings based on players, not positions is enabled'. And Recalc is enabled.

Here's a screen shot I took.

rasnell · 03-28-2007, 03:56 PM

Go to the player profile of each pitcher, look at the real life stats tab and see if these players had any games started in 2006.

If you find any example where they had no games started, then this is a bug and we need to TT it for a patch. Let me know. I would be especially interested in knowing if the lowest endurance pitchers had any starts like Ryan Madson, Arthur Rhodes, Neal Cotts, and Fausto Carmona. (Surely Rhodes never started in real life 2006??)

Zitofan75 · 03-28-2007, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasnell

(Surely Rhodes never started in real life 2006??)

He shouldn't have been allowed to close for the A's in 2004.

And no, Baseball Reference showed no starts in 2006.

edm · 03-28-2007, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasnell

Go to the player profile of each pitcher, look at the real life stats tab and see if these players had any games started in 2006.

If you find any example where they had no games started, then this is a bug and we need to TT it for a patch. Let me know. I would be especially interested in knowing if the lowest endurance pitchers had any starts like Ryan Madson, Arthur Rhodes, Neal Cotts, and Fausto Carmona. (Surely Rhodes never started in real life 2006??)

ok, I just checked and Carmona and Fultz both have zero career starts. The other relievers (Rhodes, Madson, Duchscherer, and Cottz) had no starts in 2006 as well, but did have a few earlier in their career stats.

I'm getting close to the off 2007 season, so I'll report back if it happens again.

rasnell · 03-29-2007, 06:27 AM

Now reported as TT #3209 with a link to this thread. Please keep posting any more examples because this is the link that Markus will look at when trying to tweak.

Nutlaw · 04-06-2007, 09:22 PM

This was claimed fixed in the first patch. If you continue to have trouble with this issue, please contact a moderator to reopen this thread.

03-27-2007, 09:25 PM	#1
edm All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,999	3209 - My entire pitching staff listed as SP? I just finished my first season and free agency is about to start. So I was reviewing my pitching staff, and for some reason all my pitchers changed to starting pitchers, including my closer and middle relievers. Anyone else seen this happen? I did a quick search on the board, but didn't see it mentioned. Last edited by edm; 03-28-2007 at 12:31 PM.

03-28-2007, 05:42 AM	#2
rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky Posts: 3,746	I saw the reverse of this problem in beta testing where starters were all converted to middle relievers. Can you tell me more about what kind of league (historical?) and what the endurance ratings are for your pitchers, whether you have player recalc on and whether you're using scouts? __________________ Charlie Root won more games for the Cubs than any pitcher (201), yet was remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth. Find out more about the 1929 World Series in my book, "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs." See the web site at www.rootforthecubs.com. The book is at http://www.amazon.com/Root-Cubs-Char...t+for+the+cubs. Beta tester, OOTP 2007-2023 and iOOTP 2011-2014.

03-28-2007, 03:56 PM	#4
rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky Posts: 3,746	Go to the player profile of each pitcher, look at the real life stats tab and see if these players had any games started in 2006. If you find any example where they had no games started, then this is a bug and we need to TT it for a patch. Let me know. I would be especially interested in knowing if the lowest endurance pitchers had any starts like Ryan Madson, Arthur Rhodes, Neal Cotts, and Fausto Carmona. (Surely Rhodes never started in real life 2006??) __________________ Charlie Root won more games for the Cubs than any pitcher (201), yet was remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth. Find out more about the 1929 World Series in my book, "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs." See the web site at www.rootforthecubs.com. The book is at http://www.amazon.com/Root-Cubs-Char...t+for+the+cubs. Beta tester, OOTP 2007-2023 and iOOTP 2011-2014.

03-29-2007, 06:27 AM	#7
rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky Posts: 3,746	Now reported as TT #3209 with a link to this thread. Please keep posting any more examples because this is the link that Markus will look at when trying to tweak. __________________ Charlie Root won more games for the Cubs than any pitcher (201), yet was remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth. Find out more about the 1929 World Series in my book, "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs." See the web site at www.rootforthecubs.com. The book is at http://www.amazon.com/Root-Cubs-Char...t+for+the+cubs. Beta tester, OOTP 2007-2023 and iOOTP 2011-2014.

03-28-2007, 12:13 PM	#3
edm All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,999	It was an imported 2006 league from the Lehman Database. Scouts and coaches are disabled. All ratings are 1-10. 'Ratings based on players, not positions is enabled'. And Recalc is enabled. Here's a screen shot I took.

04-06-2007, 09:22 PM	#8
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	This was claimed fixed in the first patch. If you continue to have trouble with this issue, please contact a moderator to reopen this thread.