New Database for 2008?

lbubb · 11-19-2008, 03:00 AM

lahmans will have a new database for 2008 stats, at the end of November will the game be able to import those, thanks

Tony M · 11-19-2008, 03:25 AM

Assuming the database format hasn't changed I don't see any reason why not.

Garlon · 11-19-2008, 06:30 PM

I'm pretty sure that OOTP9 will only read Lahman stats thru 2007. So if you use the next lahman DB you will be able to loa any season 1871-2007, but not 2008.

texasmame · 11-23-2008, 09:39 PM

Why is that?

Garlon · 11-23-2008, 10:20 PM

OOTP10 will allow you to load the 2008 stats.

ZMan · 12-12-2008, 03:53 PM

Seriously? So those of us who want to check out how the 2008 stat lines translate into ratings simply can't do it with OOTP9?

Spritze · 12-15-2008, 12:58 PM

Work Around: Simply and efficiently subtract 1 from the year in all the Lahman files and then look at 2007 which will really be 2008.

ZMan · 12-30-2008, 06:48 PM

Would any of the editions from OOTP6 thru 8 be capable of uploading from the latest 2008 Lahman?

I wish this would be fixed in a patch for OOTP9, as our league doesn't want to have to wait until mid-year next year (a.k.a. probable OOTP10 release) to start our season.

The workaround works, but I want to be able to upload the complete and accurate pre-2009 histories for players.

Spritze · 12-30-2008, 07:43 PM

None of the other versions of OOTP support newer Lahmaning either.

ZMan · 12-30-2008, 10:10 PM

oof. This is going to be quite the homebrewed roster project, then. I'd better get crackin.'

StyxNCa · 12-30-2008, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan

Seriously? So those of us who want to check out how the 2008 stat lines translate into ratings simply can't do it with OOTP9?

The stats for 2008 will show up in the players career stats, however the ratings are based on 2007. I just tested it and that's how it came out.

clamel · 12-31-2008, 06:06 AM

Playing historically leagues ....
I wonder if this enw Lahmanns DB actually does anything more than show 2008 stats for players playing when one reaches a player to include in the game that did play 2008.

If you got a player already playing in your history league before the new DB he will NEVER show 2008 stats in Real-Life, but the question on how his rating will turn out when you reach 2007 or 2008.

Will the perhaps very improved 2008 year for catcher Navaro in Tampa Bay really become a reality in OOTP or will he base his future 2007 and onwards on 2007 stats and then if you have Player Development turn on will take him in whatever direction ?

Questions waiting to be answered.
I´m still in mid 1990´s so I will only see players that started their career (actually was picked from the DB) after that year popping up WITH 2008 stats. Jaime Moyer will have his last realtime stats in 2007.

PS
The date formula for "entering" the majors are different in Lahmanns 2008 DB
Perhaps it needs to be fixed or will OOTP handle this correct.
I will test shortly, but someone already know please sound off

clamel · 12-31-2008, 07:01 AM

Question also on how the new idea from Lahmanns on Fielding.

No more FieldingOF file, so the CF,RF,LF will be in the Fielding.csv
Hope OOTP can handle this .....

ZMan · 12-31-2008, 08:05 AM

Understandably, I know that the development team doesn't want to make any promises.

But what is the rough expectation for OOTP10's release? Preseason? Midseason? Late season?

I feel like those of us who want to build a league strictly on ratings from the new Lahman are going to be left in the cold.

But, for homebrewing a roster strictly for a 2008 replay league....would it work for me to do this?

1) Edit out all stat lines in the new Lahman 5.6 save for 2006-2008. (so that 3-year fielding stats are usable).
2) Change the 2006-2008 dates to 2005-2007 so the game can read them correctly.
3) Load into game to generate ratings.
4) Export the rosters and ratings from the game.
5) Edit the 2005-2007 dates back to 2006-2008 in the .csv's. Paste in the rest of the backlog of historical/career stats.
6) Import the rosters from these .csv's back into OOTP.

Questions:

Will the new Lahman fielding format in 5.6 screw the fielding ratings up?

Would reimporting the rosters under the revised 2006-2008 dates alter the ratings all over again (i.e. the game will not recognize any of the 2008 stats influence)?

texasmame · 12-31-2008, 12:14 PM

New database out:

baseball1.com

11-19-2008, 03:00 AM	#1
lbubb Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 20	New Database for 2008? lahmans will have a new database for 2008 stats, at the end of November will the game be able to import those, thanks

11-23-2008, 09:39 PM	#4
texasmame All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Planet Texas Posts: 1,643	Why is that? __________________ Managing and rebuilding the 100-loss BURBANK BLACK BARONS. Defeated the TAIWAN EXPLOSIVE GO SALMON (99-63) in seven games to win the WORLD SERIES!

12-31-2008, 06:06 AM	#12
clamel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Across the Pond Posts: 1,037	Playing historically leagues .... I wonder if this enw Lahmanns DB actually does anything more than show 2008 stats for players playing when one reaches a player to include in the game that did play 2008. If you got a player already playing in your history league before the new DB he will NEVER show 2008 stats in Real-Life, but the question on how his rating will turn out when you reach 2007 or 2008. Will the perhaps very improved 2008 year for catcher Navaro in Tampa Bay really become a reality in OOTP or will he base his future 2007 and onwards on 2007 stats and then if you have Player Development turn on will take him in whatever direction ? Questions waiting to be answered. I´m still in mid 1990´s so I will only see players that started their career (actually was picked from the DB) after that year popping up WITH 2008 stats. Jaime Moyer will have his last realtime stats in 2007. PS The date formula for "entering" the majors are different in Lahmanns 2008 DB Perhaps it needs to be fixed or will OOTP handle this correct. I will test shortly, but someone already know please sound off Last edited by clamel; 12-31-2008 at 06:14 AM.

12-31-2008, 08:05 AM	#14
ZMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 107	Understandably, I know that the development team doesn't want to make any promises. But what is the rough expectation for OOTP10's release? Preseason? Midseason? Late season? I feel like those of us who want to build a league strictly on ratings from the new Lahman are going to be left in the cold. But, for homebrewing a roster strictly for a 2008 replay league....would it work for me to do this? 1) Edit out all stat lines in the new Lahman 5.6 save for 2006-2008. (so that 3-year fielding stats are usable). 2) Change the 2006-2008 dates to 2005-2007 so the game can read them correctly. 3) Load into game to generate ratings. 4) Export the rosters and ratings from the game. 5) Edit the 2005-2007 dates back to 2006-2008 in the .csv's. Paste in the rest of the backlog of historical/career stats. 6) Import the rosters from these .csv's back into OOTP. Questions: Will the new Lahman fielding format in 5.6 screw the fielding ratings up? Would reimporting the rosters under the revised 2006-2008 dates alter the ratings all over again (i.e. the game will not recognize any of the 2008 stats influence)? Last edited by ZMan; 12-31-2008 at 08:19 AM.

12-31-2008, 12:14 PM	#15
texasmame All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Planet Texas Posts: 1,643	New database out: baseball1.com __________________ Managing and rebuilding the 100-loss BURBANK BLACK BARONS. Defeated the TAIWAN EXPLOSIVE GO SALMON (99-63) in seven games to win the WORLD SERIES!

11-19-2008, 03:25 AM	#2
Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,156	Assuming the database format hasn't changed I don't see any reason why not.

11-19-2008, 06:30 PM	#3
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,256	I'm pretty sure that OOTP9 will only read Lahman stats thru 2007. So if you use the next lahman DB you will be able to loa any season 1871-2007, but not 2008.

11-23-2008, 10:20 PM	#5
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,256	OOTP10 will allow you to load the 2008 stats.

12-12-2008, 03:53 PM	#6
ZMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 107	Seriously? So those of us who want to check out how the 2008 stat lines translate into ratings simply can't do it with OOTP9?

12-15-2008, 12:58 PM	#7
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	Work Around: Simply and efficiently subtract 1 from the year in all the Lahman files and then look at 2007 which will really be 2008.

12-30-2008, 06:48 PM	#8
ZMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 107	Would any of the editions from OOTP6 thru 8 be capable of uploading from the latest 2008 Lahman? I wish this would be fixed in a patch for OOTP9, as our league doesn't want to have to wait until mid-year next year (a.k.a. probable OOTP10 release) to start our season. The workaround works, but I want to be able to upload the complete and accurate pre-2009 histories for players.

12-30-2008, 07:43 PM	#9
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	None of the other versions of OOTP support newer Lahmaning either.

12-30-2008, 10:10 PM	#10
ZMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 107	oof. This is going to be quite the homebrewed roster project, then. I'd better get crackin.'

12-31-2008, 07:01 AM	#13
clamel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Across the Pond Posts: 1,037	Question also on how the new idea from Lahmanns on Fielding. No more FieldingOF file, so the CF,RF,LF will be in the Fielding.csv Hope OOTP can handle this .....