Earned Run Average

[danwh72]

Hey there -

I've been enjoying OOTP and recently started an historical league starting in 1872. The scores are average to high scores, but the ERAs of the pitchers are extremely low. Mine has a 1.16, but he regularly gives up more than 10 runs.

Is is calculated differently? Or were the early years just full of errors?

[BaseballMan]

Well if you look at the history of baseball you will see that most of the ERA leaders had their careers before the modern era. The rules were different. Its not anything to do with game calculating the data differently. Its just the real stats that are available. You wont see a player batting .447 in the modern era but you might in a 19th century league cause thats what really happened. So i think the low ERAs are for that time frame are normal. Now if you have guys hitting 50 hr, that i would question.

[The Game]

Originally Posted by danwh72

Hey there -

I've been enjoying OOTP and recently started an historical league starting in 1872. The scores are average to high scores, but the ERAs of the pitchers are extremely low. Mine has a 1.16, but he regularly gives up more than 10 runs.

Is is calculated differently? Or were the early years just full of errors?

Errors don't count vs a pitchers ERA. I know when I was in 1872 in my league my team averaged close to 11 errors a game and had 1 gam where combined there were 39 errors 2 shy of the RL record (I may be wrong on tee RL record, but it was close to it)

[RchW]

Originally Posted by danwh72

Hey there -

I've been enjoying OOTP and recently started an historical league starting in 1872. The scores are average to high scores, but the ERAs of the pitchers are extremely low. Mine has a 1.16, but he regularly gives up more than 10 runs.

Is is calculated differently? Or were the early years just full of errors?

Check the box scores to associate ER and R with errors. Also check league earned runs vs runs scored in the team stats.

BR indicates in 1872 that 3390 runs were scored and 1334 were ER. That's just under 40% in 2011 ER are 92% of runs scored. In 1872 there were 7.5 E/game. How does your league compare?

[danwh72]

I just finished the second season, but can't seem to find errors on the season stats Is there a screen that provides this information?

[RchW]

Originally Posted by danwh72

I just finished the second season, but can't seem to find errors on the season stats Is there a screen that provides this information?

Stats and Leaders then team info and stats.

[danwh72]

Shoot - just managed a playoff game and was able to witness first hand the number of errors. Wow

[swampdragon]

The game has a number of problems with scoring runs as earned or unearned. Many runs are counted as unearned that should in fact be earned. Specific examples are detailed in the Bug Report Thread, and the distortions are magnified when playing 19th century seasons due to the high number of errors. The difference between a starter's ERA and what it should be during that period is likely 1-2 runs per game.

[plannine]

Originally Posted by danwh72

Hey there -

I've been enjoying OOTP and recently started an historical league starting in 1872. The scores are average to high scores, but the ERAs of the pitchers are extremely low. Mine has a 1.16, but he regularly gives up more than 10 runs.

Is is calculated differently? Or were the early years just full of errors?

10 to 12 errors in a game was pretty common in the early years of the game. Bad fields and no gloves didn't help any either. Even low scoring games had a few. Most games had more errors than runs.

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Game Played on Friday, October 9, 1874 (D) at Union Grounds

MUT n 0 2 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 - 4 5 4
BOS n 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 - 3 9 6

BOSTON FIELDING -
E: G. Wright 2 (42), Spalding (26), Schafer 3 (63).

NEW YORK FIELDING -
E: Carey 2 (61), Hatfield (31), Burdock (61).
PB: Higham 2 (33).


PITCHING

Boston Red Stockings IP H R ER BB SO HR
Spalding L(39-13) 9 5 4 0 0 2 0

Mutuals (New York) IP H R ER BB SO HR
Mathews W(40-18) 9 9 3 1 0 0 0
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Game Played on Saturday, May 27, 1911 (D) at Robison Field

CHI N 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 - 7 14 2
STL N 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 0 0 1 0 - 6 7 6

FIELDING -
E: Chance (3), Tinker (12).

FIELDING -
E: Huggins (4), Hauser 2 (11), Mowrey 2 (9), Steele (1).


PITCHING

Chicago Cubs IP H R ER BB SO HR BFP
Brown 6.2 3 4 2 7 6 0
Richie 1.1 1 1 0 1 1 0
Cole W(3-0) 3 3 1 1 0 0 0
Totals 11 7 6 3 8 7 0

St. Louis Cardinals IP H R ER BB SO HR BFP
Sallee 7 8 4 0 1 4 0
Geyer 3 4 2 1 2 0 0
Steele L(3-6) 1 2 1 0 0 0 0
Totals 11 14 7 1 3 4 0