GOAT Baseball Team

Red14 · 07-12-2015, 03:39 PM

Hi folks, long time no see.

I'm in the process of a project and was looking for volunteers to help me out. I'm trying to see what biases come into play when it comes to idolizing people. I'm gathering data on the greatest baseball team of all time in your opinion. If you're interested, take a couple of minutes to respond in the format in the below example. Before you do though, let me be clear. I don't want google's opinion, I want you're opinion. For example growing up I always thought Jim Edmonds was just amazing. Even though he might not be the best ever, I'm still considering him for my team. Thanks for your help!

Name: Joe Camile (Screen name is fine)

Hometown: Anchorage, Alaska

Current City: Sydney, Australia

Favorite Team: Albuquerque Dukes

Year Born: 1909

Do I prefer the DH? : Yes/No

Starting Pitchers (Pick five)-

Relief Pitchers (Pick two)-

Closing Pitcher (Pick one)-

C-

1B-

2B-

3B-

SS-

LF-

CF-

RF-

Subs (Pick 3, not pitchers)-

The Game · 07-12-2015, 03:59 PM

Name: The Game

Hometown: Lombard, IL

Favorite Team: White Sox

Do I prefer the DH? : Yes in OOTP yes, RL no.

Starting Pitchers (Pick five)- Maddux, Buerhle, Koufax, Satchel Paige & Walter Johnson

Relief Pitchers (Pick two)- Radinsky & Foulke

Closing Pitcher (Pick one)- Eck
C - Pudge Rodriguez

1B- Big Hurt

2B- Rajah

3B- Robin Ventura

SS- Honus Wagner

LF- Rickey Henderson

CF- Ty Cobb

RF- Harold Baines

Subs (Pick 3, not pitchers) Ichiro, Charles Johnson & Cal Ripken

This team differs from my all time favorite team which is attached below.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 07-12-2015, 04:01 PM

Name: E4P
Hometown: Orange County, CA
Current City: Orange County, CA
Team: Angels
DH? I guess no, but I'm mostly agnostic so "no opinion" would be fine too

SP - Walter Johnson
SP - Roger Clemens
SP - Tom Seaver
SP - Lefty Grove
SP - Randy Johnson
RP (here I am not picking a closer) - Kent Tekulve
RP (ditto) - Jesse Orosco
CL - Mariano Rivera
C (I assume this was omitted by accident) - Johnny Bench
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Joe Morgan
3B - Mike Schmidt
SS - Alex Rodriguez
LF - Barry Bonds
CF - Mike Trout
RF - Babe Ruth
Sub - Honus Wagner
Sub - Willie Mays
Sub - Ted Williams

Red14 · 07-12-2015, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eckstein 4 Prez

C (I assume this was omitted by accident) - Johnny Bench

Yep thanks for the catch! I also added a birth year but if you don't feel comfortable with leaving that, its fine.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 07-12-2015, 07:29 PM

Birth year seems important to revealing bias. Mine's 1972.

MorseMoose · 07-12-2015, 08:00 PM

Name: MorseMoose
Hometown: Minneapolis, MN
Current City: Minneapolis, MN
Favorite Team: Minnesota Twins
Year Born: 1984
Do I prefer the DH? : Yes

SP - Walter Johnson
SP - Randy Johnson
SP - Greg Maddux
SP - Brad Radke
SP - Bert Blyleven
RP - Mike Trombley (tried to go non-CL; not as up on non-closing RPers)
RP - LaTroy Hawkins (was a CL for quite a while; but RP as well)
CL - Mariano Rivera
C - Mike Piazza
1B - Jim Thome
2B - Jackie Robinson
3B - Harmon Killebrew
SS - Cal Ripken, Jr.
LF - Babe Ruth
CF - Ken Griffey, Jr.
RF - Kirby Puckett
Sub - Ted Williams
Sub - Roberto Clemente
Sub - Albert Pujols

Airdrop01 · 07-12-2015, 08:21 PM

Name: airdrop

Hometown: Ft. Walton Beach (Eglin AFB) Florida

Current City: Lenexa, Kansas

Favorite Team: Kansas City Royals

Year Born: pass

Do I prefer the DH? : Yes

Starting Pitchers (Pick five)- Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Tom Seaver, Walter Johnson, Cy Young tied with Randy Johnson

Relief Pitchers (Pick two)- Wade Davis, Mariano Rivera

Closing Pitcher (Pick one)- Rich Gossage

C- Johnny Bench

1B- Lou Gehrig

2B- Rogers Hornsby

3B- George Brett (though I want to say Schmidt)

SS- Cal Ripken, Jr. (Beating Honus Wagner)

LF- Stan Musial (heresy I know beating Ted Williams)

CF- Ty Cobb

RF- Roberto Clemente

Subs (Pick 3, not pitchers) - Mike Schmidt, Ted Williams, Willie Mays

I have excluded known cheaters

actionjackson · 07-12-2015, 09:17 PM

Name: actionjackson
Hometown: Toronto, Ontario
Current City: Toronto, Ontario
Favourite Team: Toronto Blue Jays
Year Born: 1969
Do I prefer the DH? Yes
SP - Walter Johnson
SP - Cy Young
SP - Roger Clemens
SP - Pete Alexander
SP - Lefty Grove
RP - Trevor Hoffman (was a closer, but would also make a great RP)
RP - Rich Gossage (ditto)
CL - Mariano Rivera
C - Johnny Bench
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Rogers Hornsby
3B - Mike Schmidt
SS - Honus Wagner
LF - Barry Bonds
CF - Willie Mays
RF - Babe Ruth
Sub - Ty Cobb
Sub - Gary Carter
Sub - Eddie Collins

ThatSeventiesGuy · 07-12-2015, 10:59 PM

Here we go...

ThatSeventiesGuy
Hometown: Vincennes, IN
Current City: Indianapolis, IN
Favorite Team: St. Louis Cardinals
Year Born: 1974
DH: Nah, I'm a National League guy. Although if I was forced to use one, it'd be Reggie Jackson by a hair over Big Papi.

SP: Walter Johnson
SP: Bob Gibson
SP: Cy Young
SP: Warren Spahn
SP: Pedro Martinez
Long Relief/Spot Starter: Nolan Ryan (cheating a bit, I know, but he did start out as a sometimes-reliever with the Mets.
RP: Trevor Hoffman
CL: Mariano Rivera
C: Johnny Bench
1B: Stan Musial (hey, he played a lot of 1B late in his career)
2B: Rogers Hornsby
SS: Ernie Banks (sorry, Ozzie!)
3B: Mike Schmidt
LF: Ted Williams
CF: Willie Mays
RF: Babe Ruth (also an emergency pitcher!)
Subs: Yogi Berra, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb

bocage44 · 07-13-2015, 08:57 AM

Name: bocage44

Hometown: Pittsburgh, PA

Current City: Springfield, VA

Favorite Team: Pittsburgh Pirates (Although the Nationals are a close second)

Year Born: 1962

Do I prefer the DH? : No

Starting Pitchers –
Bob Gibson
Steve Carlton
Tom Seaver
Walter Johnson
Sandy Koufax

Relief Pitchers –
Mike Marshall
Rollie Fingers

Closing Pitcher –
Rich Gossage

C – Johnny Bench

1B – Lou Gehrig

2B – Joe Morgan

3B – Brooks Robinson

SS – Cal Ripken

LF – Ted Williams

CF – Willie Mays

RF – Roberto Clemente

Subs –
Babe Ruth
Hank Aaron
Frank Robinson

CD1083 · 07-13-2015, 09:18 AM

Name: CD1083

Hometown: Smalltown, Iowa

Current City: Mediumtown, New York

Favorite Team: Chicago White Sox, though I've been following the Cubs more recently.

Year Born: 1983

Do I prefer the DH? : Indifferent

Starting Pitchers: Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez, Jim Abbott (The guy has 1 hand!)

Relief Pitchers: Rick Vaugn and Henry Rowengartner

Closing Pitcher (Pick one)- Mariao Rivera

C- Pudge

1B- Big Hurt

2B- Biggio

3B- Brett

SS- Ripken

LF- Bo Jackson

CF- Griffey

RF- Ichiro

Subs: Rickey Henderson, Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle

mirrf · 07-13-2015, 11:31 AM

Name: Mirrf
Hometown: San Jose, CA
Current City: San Jose, CA
Team: A's
DH? Yes
Birthyear: 1971

SP - Walter Johnson
SP - Greg Maddox
SP - Lefty Grove
SP - Sandy Koufax
SP - Randy Johnson
RP - Satchel Paige
RP - Rollie Fingers
CL - Mariano Rivera
C - Yogi Berra
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Rogers Hornsby
3B - Mike Schmidt
SS - Ozzie Smith
LF - Ted Williams
CF - Willie Mays
RF - Babe Ruth
Sub - Rickey Henderson
Sub - Joe Morgan
Sub - Hank Aaron

magnet 2.0 · 07-13-2015, 01:13 PM

Name: Jeff Gibson

Hometown: Minneapolis, MN

Current City: Minneapolis, MN

Favorite Team: Minnesota Twins

Year Born: 1984

Do I prefer the DH? : Yes

Starting Pitchers (Pick five)- Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, Pedro Martinez

Relief Pitchers (Pick two)- (skipping closers here): Jesse Crain, Glen Perkins (there's some bias for you!)

Closing Pitcher (Pick one)- Mariano

C- Pudge Rodriguez

1B- Frank Thomas

2B- Rogers Hornsby

3B- Mike Schmidt, but it's hard to look past Brooks Robinson here

SS- Ozzie Smith

LF- Ted Williams

CF- Willie Mays

RF- Babe Ruth

Subs (Pick 3, not pitchers)- Ty Cobb, Barry Bonds, Lou Gehrig

IsaacR · 07-13-2015, 02:18 PM

Name: IsaacR
Hometown: Laurel, MD
Current city: Bowie, MD
Favorite team: Orioles, though I also follow the Rockies
Year Born: 1998
DH?: No

SP: Walter Johnson
SP: Nolan Ryan
SP: Greg Maddux
SP: Babe Ruth
SP: Sandy Koufax

RP: John Smoltz
RP: Rollie Fingers
CL: Mariano Rivera

C: Yogi Berra
1B: Lou Gehrig
2B: Joe Morgan
SS: Cal Ripken Jr
3B: Brooks Robinson
LF: Ted Williams
CF: Tris Speaker
RF: Roberto Clemente

Bench: Willie Mays, Ernie Banks, Honus Wagner

Red14 · 07-13-2015, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IsaacR

Name: IsaacR
Hometown: Laurel, MD
Current city: Bowie, MD
Favorite team: Orioles, though I also follow the Rockies
Year Born: 1998
DH?: No

SP: Walter Johnson
SP: Nolan Ryan
SP: Greg Maddux
SP: Babe Ruth

Nothing wrong with this last choice, just wanted to make sure you're aware the Babe only pitched regularly for six years.

IsaacR · 07-13-2015, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red14

Nothing wrong with this last choice, just wanted to make sure you're aware the Babe only pitched regularly for six years.

Yes, I am. I wish he had kept pitching.

Airdrop01 · 07-13-2015, 09:35 PM

1998. Good grief I'm almost dead.

Red14 · 07-13-2015, 10:01 PM

I'm honestly surprised by all the old timers on his team.

MorseMoose · 07-13-2015, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airdrop01

1998. Good grief I'm almost dead.

I think he mistyped...I think it meant 1898.

MorseMoose · 07-13-2015, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnet 2.0

Relief Pitchers (Pick two)- (skipping closers here): Jesse Crain, Glen Perkins (there's some bias for you!)

Perkins wasn't a RP-only for very long. Crain, definitely.

07-12-2015, 03:39 PM	#1
Red14 Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Illinois Posts: 14	GOAT Baseball Team Hi folks, long time no see. I'm in the process of a project and was looking for volunteers to help me out. I'm trying to see what biases come into play when it comes to idolizing people. I'm gathering data on the greatest baseball team of all time in your opinion. If you're interested, take a couple of minutes to respond in the format in the below example. Before you do though, let me be clear. I don't want google's opinion, I want you're opinion. For example growing up I always thought Jim Edmonds was just amazing. Even though he might not be the best ever, I'm still considering him for my team. Thanks for your help! Name: Joe Camile (Screen name is fine) Hometown: Anchorage, Alaska Current City: Sydney, Australia Favorite Team: Albuquerque Dukes Year Born: 1909 Do I prefer the DH? : Yes/No Starting Pitchers (Pick five)- Relief Pitchers (Pick two)- Closing Pitcher (Pick one)- C- 1B- 2B- 3B- SS- LF- CF- RF- Subs (Pick 3, not pitchers)- Last edited by Red14; 07-13-2015 at 01:28 AM.

07-12-2015, 04:01 PM	#3
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,348	Name: E4P Hometown: Orange County, CA Current City: Orange County, CA Team: Angels DH? I guess no, but I'm mostly agnostic so "no opinion" would be fine too SP - Walter Johnson SP - Roger Clemens SP - Tom Seaver SP - Lefty Grove SP - Randy Johnson RP (here I am not picking a closer) - Kent Tekulve RP (ditto) - Jesse Orosco CL - Mariano Rivera C (I assume this was omitted by accident) - Johnny Bench 1B - Lou Gehrig 2B - Joe Morgan 3B - Mike Schmidt SS - Alex Rodriguez LF - Barry Bonds CF - Mike Trout RF - Babe Ruth Sub - Honus Wagner Sub - Willie Mays Sub - Ted Williams __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

07-12-2015, 07:29 PM	#5
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,348	Birth year seems important to revealing bias. Mine's 1972. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

07-12-2015, 08:00 PM	#6
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Blog Entries: 4 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Name: MorseMoose Hometown: Minneapolis, MN Current City: Minneapolis, MN Favorite Team: Minnesota Twins Year Born: 1984 Do I prefer the DH? : Yes SP - Walter Johnson SP - Randy Johnson SP - Greg Maddux SP - Brad Radke SP - Bert Blyleven RP - Mike Trombley (tried to go non-CL; not as up on non-closing RPers) RP - LaTroy Hawkins (was a CL for quite a while; but RP as well) CL - Mariano Rivera C - Mike Piazza 1B - Jim Thome 2B - Jackie Robinson 3B - Harmon Killebrew SS - Cal Ripken, Jr. LF - Babe Ruth CF - Ken Griffey, Jr. RF - Kirby Puckett Sub - Ted Williams Sub - Roberto Clemente Sub - Albert Pujols Last edited by MorseMoose; 07-12-2015 at 08:26 PM.

07-12-2015, 08:21 PM	#7
Airdrop01 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lenexa, KS / Wilson, WY Posts: 1,354	Name: airdrop Hometown: Ft. Walton Beach (Eglin AFB) Florida Current City: Lenexa, Kansas Favorite Team: Kansas City Royals Year Born: pass Do I prefer the DH? : Yes Starting Pitchers (Pick five)- Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Tom Seaver, Walter Johnson, Cy Young tied with Randy Johnson Relief Pitchers (Pick two)- Wade Davis, Mariano Rivera Closing Pitcher (Pick one)- Rich Gossage C- Johnny Bench 1B- Lou Gehrig 2B- Rogers Hornsby 3B- George Brett (though I want to say Schmidt) SS- Cal Ripken, Jr. (Beating Honus Wagner) LF- Stan Musial (heresy I know beating Ted Williams) CF- Ty Cobb RF- Roberto Clemente Subs (Pick 3, not pitchers) - Mike Schmidt, Ted Williams, Willie Mays I have excluded known cheaters Last edited by Airdrop01; 07-12-2015 at 08:25 PM. Reason: Auto correct on Hometown

07-12-2015, 09:17 PM	#8
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,163	Name: actionjackson Hometown: Toronto, Ontario Current City: Toronto, Ontario Favourite Team: Toronto Blue Jays Year Born: 1969 Do I prefer the DH? Yes SP - Walter Johnson SP - Cy Young SP - Roger Clemens SP - Pete Alexander SP - Lefty Grove RP - Trevor Hoffman (was a closer, but would also make a great RP) RP - Rich Gossage (ditto) CL - Mariano Rivera C - Johnny Bench 1B - Lou Gehrig 2B - Rogers Hornsby 3B - Mike Schmidt SS - Honus Wagner LF - Barry Bonds CF - Willie Mays RF - Babe Ruth Sub - Ty Cobb Sub - Gary Carter Sub - Eddie Collins Last edited by actionjackson; 07-12-2015 at 09:20 PM.

07-12-2015, 10:59 PM	#9
ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,424	Here we go... ThatSeventiesGuy Hometown: Vincennes, IN Current City: Indianapolis, IN Favorite Team: St. Louis Cardinals Year Born: 1974 DH: Nah, I'm a National League guy. Although if I was forced to use one, it'd be Reggie Jackson by a hair over Big Papi. SP: Walter Johnson SP: Bob Gibson SP: Cy Young SP: Warren Spahn SP: Pedro Martinez Long Relief/Spot Starter: Nolan Ryan (cheating a bit, I know, but he did start out as a sometimes-reliever with the Mets. RP: Trevor Hoffman CL: Mariano Rivera C: Johnny Bench 1B: Stan Musial (hey, he played a lot of 1B late in his career) 2B: Rogers Hornsby SS: Ernie Banks (sorry, Ozzie!) 3B: Mike Schmidt LF: Ted Williams CF: Willie Mays RF: Babe Ruth (also an emergency pitcher!) Subs: Yogi Berra, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1

07-13-2015, 08:57 AM	#10
bocage44 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 13	Name: bocage44 Hometown: Pittsburgh, PA Current City: Springfield, VA Favorite Team: Pittsburgh Pirates (Although the Nationals are a close second) Year Born: 1962 Do I prefer the DH? : No Starting Pitchers – Bob Gibson Steve Carlton Tom Seaver Walter Johnson Sandy Koufax Relief Pitchers – Mike Marshall Rollie Fingers Closing Pitcher – Rich Gossage C – Johnny Bench 1B – Lou Gehrig 2B – Joe Morgan 3B – Brooks Robinson SS – Cal Ripken LF – Ted Williams CF – Willie Mays RF – Roberto Clemente Subs – Babe Ruth Hank Aaron Frank Robinson Last edited by bocage44; 07-13-2015 at 08:58 AM.

07-13-2015, 09:18 AM	#11
CD1083 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,590	Name: CD1083 Hometown: Smalltown, Iowa Current City: Mediumtown, New York Favorite Team: Chicago White Sox, though I've been following the Cubs more recently. Year Born: 1983 Do I prefer the DH? : Indifferent Starting Pitchers: Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez, Jim Abbott (The guy has 1 hand!) Relief Pitchers: Rick Vaugn and Henry Rowengartner Closing Pitcher (Pick one)- Mariao Rivera C- Pudge 1B- Big Hurt 2B- Biggio 3B- Brett SS- Ripken LF- Bo Jackson CF- Griffey RF- Ichiro Subs: Rickey Henderson, Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle Last edited by CD1083; 07-13-2015 at 10:39 AM.

07-13-2015, 01:13 PM	#13
magnet 2.0 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 70	Name: Jeff Gibson Hometown: Minneapolis, MN Current City: Minneapolis, MN Favorite Team: Minnesota Twins Year Born: 1984 Do I prefer the DH? : Yes Starting Pitchers (Pick five)- Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, Pedro Martinez Relief Pitchers (Pick two)- (skipping closers here): Jesse Crain, Glen Perkins (there's some bias for you!) Closing Pitcher (Pick one)- Mariano C- Pudge Rodriguez 1B- Frank Thomas 2B- Rogers Hornsby 3B- Mike Schmidt, but it's hard to look past Brooks Robinson here SS- Ozzie Smith LF- Ted Williams CF- Willie Mays RF- Babe Ruth Subs (Pick 3, not pitchers)- Ty Cobb, Barry Bonds, Lou Gehrig

07-13-2015, 02:18 PM	#14
IsaacR Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Bowie, Maryland Posts: 464	Name: IsaacR Hometown: Laurel, MD Current city: Bowie, MD Favorite team: Orioles, though I also follow the Rockies Year Born: 1998 DH?: No SP: Walter Johnson SP: Nolan Ryan SP: Greg Maddux SP: Babe Ruth SP: Sandy Koufax RP: John Smoltz RP: Rollie Fingers CL: Mariano Rivera C: Yogi Berra 1B: Lou Gehrig 2B: Joe Morgan SS: Cal Ripken Jr 3B: Brooks Robinson LF: Ted Williams CF: Tris Speaker RF: Roberto Clemente Bench: Willie Mays, Ernie Banks, Honus Wagner __________________ The Oriole Way - My Dynasty as the Orioles GM Online Leagues: SBL - Colorado Rockies PATP - Montreal Royals

07-13-2015, 09:35 PM	#17
Airdrop01 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lenexa, KS / Wilson, WY Posts: 1,354	1998. Good grief I'm almost dead.

07-13-2015, 10:01 PM	#18
Red14 Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Illinois Posts: 14	I'm honestly surprised by all the old timers on his team.