Player converted

sreem · 08-04-2015, 11:48 AM

Saw this as I was looking for a potential piece for a trade I was working on. I realize that this player has changed, but my question is, does this indicate that there is a process for the AI to change a player from one position to another, or is it instant like for the Human controlled teams?

Bluenoser · 08-04-2015, 12:03 PM

This occurs occasionally, and I don't imagine it's any different from human.

However I can't speak for others, but it's definitely not "instantaneous" for me.

I consider a few things first, such as what are my most pressing needs, a 3B or a Pitcher?

What is his potential best suited for?

How long will I have to wait for him to develop?

etc, etc

I'm sure the AI probably considers those things too.

battists · 08-04-2015, 12:46 PM

Huh, if you manually change someone's position do they get this entry in their history?

Bluenoser · 08-04-2015, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Huh, if you manually change someone's position do they get this entry in their history?

No, but you can easily add it yourself.

RchW · 08-04-2015, 01:22 PM

Follow up question. Do you see such an entry for a position change ie 3B to 2B or SP to RP and vice-versa? Is it just pitcher/player and player/pitcher?

Bluenoser · 08-04-2015, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Follow up question. Do you see such an entry for a position change ie 3B to 2B or SP to RP and vice-versa? Is it just pitcher/player and player/pitcher?

I've only seen it from pitcher to fielder/ fielder to pitcher.

I can't see it being in there for just changing position, like 2b to 3b or something. Far too many players in OOTP with multiple fielding positions that I think the history log would fill up pretty quickly.

sreem · 08-04-2015, 02:04 PM

Great if we could get a developer on to answer. Not that it really affects game play, but I'm just wondering if the AI players go through this process or if it's instantaneous.

Bluenoser · 08-04-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sreem

Great if we could get a developer on to answer. Not that it really affects game play, but I'm just wondering if the AI players go through this process or if it's instantaneous.

What exactly do you mean by "instantaneous"?

Do you mean - Does the AI just look and say "Oh, the player has Pitching and Fielding abilities", then instantly changes their position?

I'm only on Beta, and not an actual programmer, but I know that OOTP doesn't do things randomly, if that's what you mean. The AI is programmed to manage a baseball team and use all the considerations that come with that position. In this case it would consider the things I mentioned previously and maybe even more that I missed.

sreem · 08-04-2015, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

What exactly do you mean by "instantaneous"?

Do you mean - Does the AI just look and say "Oh, the player has Pitching and Fielding abilities", then instantly changes their position?

I'm only on Beta, and not an actual programmer, but I know that OOTP doesn't do things randomly, if that's what you mean. The AI is programmed to manage a baseball team and use all the considerations that come with that position. In this case it would consider the things I mentioned previously and maybe even more that I missed.

I guess what I'm asking, and it's purely for my own sense of the game, is does the entry in the players history happen instantly when the AI changes the player, or did the AI have to develop the player at the new position for a time. At which point, a certain level of proficenciey(?spelling?) was reached which triggered the entry.
I've never seen the entry for my players that I've taught a new position, but I've never tried to convert a pitcher to a fielder before.

Bluenoser · 08-04-2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sreem

I guess what I'm asking, and it's purely for my own sense of the game, is does the entry in the players history happen instantly when the AI changes the player, or did the AI have to develop the player at the new position for a time. At which point, a certain level of proficenciey(?spelling?) was reached which triggered the entry.
I've never seen the entry for my players that I've taught a new position, but I've never tried to convert a pitcher to a fielder before.

The entry occurs on the day the change occurs. That is evidenced by the date/entry indicating said change.

I have never seen the AI convert a player to a position he didn't have a rating for, and I don't think it does. In this case, the player obviously had pitching and hitting potential and the AI decided the better value for it's team was making him a 3B.

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08-04-2015, 02:04 PM	#7
sreem All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 673	Great if we could get a developer on to answer. Not that it really affects game play, but I'm just wondering if the AI players go through this process or if it's instantaneous. __________________ "What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. Except for bears....."

08-04-2015, 12:03 PM	#2
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,191	This occurs occasionally, and I don't imagine it's any different from human. However I can't speak for others, but it's definitely not "instantaneous" for me. I consider a few things first, such as what are my most pressing needs, a 3B or a Pitcher? What is his potential best suited for? How long will I have to wait for him to develop? etc, etc I'm sure the AI probably considers those things too.