Manager trait change

[troy1721]

Bud Black is my manager, and he allows me to control almost anything I want as the GM only.

His reputation started out as decent.

After 2015 we go to the World Series and lose to the Tigers.

His reputation increased to good.

We are in 2016 now, sitting at 26-11. I go to adjust a players strategy, just as I had done a days ago in the game, but now Bud Black won't let me touch a damn thing?

His reputation is excellent now.

I made him, so I guess it might be time for me to make another manager.

[Friendly_Beaver]

Originally Posted by troy1721

Bud Black is my manager, and he allows me to control almost anything I want as the GM only.

His reputation started out as decent.

After 2015 we go to the World Series and lose to the Tigers.

His reputation increased to good.

We are in 2016 now, sitting at 26-11. I go to adjust a players strategy, just as I had done a days ago in the game, but now Bud Black won't let me touch a damn thing?

His reputation is excellent now.

I made him, so I guess it might be time for me to make another manager.

Managers can be extremely frustrating at times, but I love it that way. I traded for Craig Gentry to play LF and my manager kept starting Rajai Davis, no idea why. His BAA was 100 points lower and his defense is 55 to Gentry's 100 in LF. So what did I do? Traded Davis for a back up SS and minor league SP.

I had visions of myself in Moneyball telling my manager "you can't start Davis in left tonight" with him replying that he will and me saying "no you CAN'T, I just traded him to the Mets".

[troy1721]

Originally Posted by Friendly_Beaver

Managers can be extremely frustrating at times, but I love it that way. I traded for Craig Gentry to play LF and my manager kept starting Rajai Davis, no idea why. His BAA was 100 points lower and his defense is 55 to Gentry's 100 in LF. So what did I do? Traded Davis for a back up SS and minor league SP.

I had visions of myself in Moneyball telling my manager "you can't start Davis in left tonight" with him replying that he will and me saying "no you CAN'T, I just traded him to the Mets".

This is hilarious b/c I am trying to get my manager to BENCH Craig Gentry lol.

[BusterKing]

Originally Posted by Friendly_Beaver

Managers can be extremely frustrating at times, but I love it that way. I traded for Craig Gentry to play LF and my manager kept starting Rajai Davis, no idea why. His BAA was 100 points lower and his defense is 55 to Gentry's 100 in LF. So what did I do? Traded Davis for a back up SS and minor league SP.

Originally Posted by troy1721

This is hilarious b/c I am trying to get my manager to BENCH Craig Gentry lol.

Force start players works for me.

[Friendly_Beaver]

Originally Posted by BusterKing

Force start players works for me.

Some managers won't allow you to edit the player strategies that would force start a player. I would fire him but I'm currently first in the AL east 8 games up so I can't fire him, yet.

[Phantom9in]

Promote him to Assistant GM and hire a new manager

[chief915]

All my managers have changed in that way as their reputation gets better.


When they are new/inexperienced, you can change just about anything lineup wise. As they gain reputation, they become less and less "open" to your input as the GM.


As someone else said, If I really want someone to play in a certain position, I use the "force start" function in player strategy.

[sreem]

I play as GM only, then I turn on control of the lineups and rotation at the ML level for me and play out all my games.
Really the only reason I have a manager is so I have someone to fire when I get frustrated during a bad season!

[tcoots423]

Originally Posted by sreem

I play as GM only, then I turn on control of the lineups and rotation at the ML level for me and play out all my games.
Really the only reason I have a manager is so I have someone to fire when I get frustrated during a bad season!

Ive read like 3 different threads in the past 10 minutes that you posted on.. and i had to like your side comments haha.. too funny the stuff you say

[sreem]

Originally Posted by tcoots423

Ive read like 3 different threads in the past 10 minutes that you posted on.. and i had to like your side comments haha.. too funny the stuff you say

And all of it's true.....what'd I say?

[tcoots423]

Originally Posted by sreem

And all of it's true.....what'd I say?

The losing streak where u started rooting for you to lose haha

[sreem]

Originally Posted by tcoots423

The losing streak where u started rooting for you to lose haha

I yes....that was something. I started out so freaking happy going 4 -1, then after dropping to 4 - 8 I was ready to quit playing the game forever, destroy my laptop, and move to Belgium to become a chocolate tester.
Thankfully, through this forum no less, some guys talked me down from the ledge. They helped me to see the light and I was able to enjoy the losing streak......sorta.

[tcoots423]

Originally Posted by sreem

I yes....that was something. I started out so freaking happy going 4 -1, then after dropping to 4 - 8 I was ready to quit playing the game forever, destroy my laptop, and move to Belgium to become a chocolate tester.
Thankfully, through this forum no less, some guys talked me down from the ledge. They helped me to see the light and I was able to enjoy the losing streak......sorta.

Haha. I have a question. Are you very loyal to your players? For example.. Im Toronto. I have some money (140-150 mill for players).. I can really only afford 1 and maybe 2(stretching it) players over 20 million. So for the most part when someone gets late into thier arbitration I exchange them for prospects and start the whole process over with them.. I see lots of people keeping thier stars for 10 plus years on here and its something I dont feel I can do with Toronto.. only one or two of them..

[sreem]

Originally Posted by tcoots423

Haha. I have a question. Are you very loyal to your players? For example.. Im Toronto. I have some money (140-150 mill for players).. I can really only afford 1 and maybe 2(stretching it) players over 20 million. So for the most part when someone gets late into thier arbitration I exchange them for prospects and start the whole process over with them.. I see lots of people keeping thier stars for 10 plus years on here and its something I dont feel I can do with Toronto.. only one or two of them..

I do tend to be loyal to my players, at least the ones that have a positive influence on the team.
Let me preface that by saying, I generally only have played the game with lower budget teams, so this can get tricky. I make determinations usually early in a players career on how good or consistent I think he will be, and I try to buy out as many of his arbitration years as possible.
The really expensive guys I will usually allow to go to free agency, and then I see what the market is like for them. Sometimes I'm able to sign them back lower if they don't get snatched up right away.


Case in point, I picked up Matt Wieters after the 2015 season. I signed him for two years to be my catcher. The first year he was my primary catcher and he had a line of .231/.303/.397 with 19 HR and 79 RBIs and a 3.2 WAR. The next year he started out slow, and was splitting time between C and 1B (I taught him 1B in spring training). I wanted to resign him, not because he was putting up big numbers, but cause he was great for the locker room and other players. He was willing to sing an extension for +5M for one year, but I am always hesitant on signing extensions during the season. I decided that I wouldn't have any problem resigning him in the offseason so I would wait, just to make sure he didn't get some crazy long injury.
Stupid Matt starting to hit, and hit, and hit. By the time the allstar break rolled around he was leading my team in AVG, HR, RBI and according to sources, had been to practice early to hit flyballs to the guys and help them get more comfortable with each other. I check in again just to see what he was thinking. He was more than happy to talk, but now he wanted 5 years instead of 1, and he was looking for $10+M per annum.
Short story long, by the time arbitration rolled around, Matt was a compensation eligible FA who wanted 7 years at around $15M per year. For my small budget team, I could not afford that no matter how badly I wanted him back.
I did some wheeling and dealing during the offseason, trading some guys I had picked up off waivers mid way through the previous year. I stocked up on some prospects, got some pitching help and was able to land Bryce Harper to take over in RF, but I was till sour from losing Wieters. Now he was on the market, and only one other top C was out there with him.
I signed ZERO free agents, and got very creative with my finances, and by the time the winter meetings rolled around I was sitting on a pile of cash, big enough to MAYBE get Matt to come back to the team. But I noticed something. Despite there not being any other top tier catchers on the market, it didn't appear that anyone else was calling on Matt. I talked to him again, and he was still asking for 15-16M and 7 years, but couldn't help but get the sense that I was the only horse at the race.
So despite a pit in my stomach, I waited. And waited. And waited.


Long story long, I was able to pick him up in February on a 1 year/$8.2M dollar deal.


So yeah, I'm loyal to my players to a point.

[tcoots423]

Originally Posted by sreem

I do tend to be loyal to my players, at least the ones that have a positive influence on the team.
Let me preface that by saying, I generally only have played the game with lower budget teams, so this can get tricky. I make determinations usually early in a players career on how good or consistent I think he will be, and I try to buy out as many of his arbitration years as possible.
The really expensive guys I will usually allow to go to free agency, and then I see what the market is like for them. Sometimes I'm able to sign them back lower if they don't get snatched up right away.


Case in point, I picked up Matt Wieters after the 2015 season. I signed him for two years to be my catcher. The first year he was my primary catcher and he had a line of .231/.303/.397 with 19 HR and 79 RBIs and a 3.2 WAR. The next year he started out slow, and was splitting time between C and 1B (I taught him 1B in spring training). I wanted to resign him, not because he was putting up big numbers, but cause he was great for the locker room and other players. He was willing to sing an extension for +5M for one year, but I am always hesitant on signing extensions during the season. I decided that I wouldn't have any problem resigning him in the offseason so I would wait, just to make sure he didn't get some crazy long injury.
Stupid Matt starting to hit, and hit, and hit. By the time the allstar break rolled around he was leading my team in AVG, HR, RBI and according to sources, had been to practice early to hit flyballs to the guys and help them get more comfortable with each other. I check in again just to see what he was thinking. He was more than happy to talk, but now he wanted 5 years instead of 1, and he was looking for $10+M per annum.
Short story long, by the time arbitration rolled around, Matt was a compensation eligible FA who wanted 7 years at around $15M per year. For my small budget team, I could not afford that no matter how badly I wanted him back.
I did some wheeling and dealing during the offseason, trading some guys I had picked up off waivers mid way through the previous year. I stocked up on some prospects, got some pitching help and was able to land Bryce Harper to take over in RF, but I was till sour from losing Wieters. Now he was on the market, and only one other top C was out there with him.
I signed ZERO free agents, and got very creative with my finances, and by the time the winter meetings rolled around I was sitting on a pile of cash, big enough to MAYBE get Matt to come back to the team. But I noticed something. Despite there not being any other top tier catchers on the market, it didn't appear that anyone else was calling on Matt. I talked to him again, and he was still asking for 15-16M and 7 years, but couldn't help but get the sense that I was the only horse at the race.
So despite a pit in my stomach, I waited. And waited. And waited.


Long story long, I was able to pick him up in February on a 1 year/$8.2M dollar deal.


So yeah, I'm loyal to my players to a point.

2 things. in my league when Harper hit FA he asked for 40 mill a year and got it from the Angels haha..

Second I had a player I posted on here, C.Moran. he hit 300/30-40HR/100 plus RBI for 4 years and when he was going to hit FA he asked also for 40 mill. Difference was Harper was like 24 or 25 a the time. Moran was 33 lol.. I looked at the off season center screen and all the way up until the pre season began nobody wanted him. I did, but not for 40. He went down to 35, then 33, then out of nowhere the Angels offered him 25 for 3 years...which I was willing to pay because he had been my superstar.. He signed back with me but is now declining pretty fast...I figued he was one of those few superstars who could stay great till 35 or so

[sreem]

Originally Posted by tcoots423

2 things. in my league when Harper hit FA he asked for 40 mill a year and got it from the Angels haha..

Second I had a player I posted on here, C.Moran. he hit 300/30-40HR/100 plus RBI for 4 years and when he was going to hit FA he asked also for 40 mill. Difference was Harper was like 24 or 25 a the time. Moran was 33 lol.. I looked at the off season center screen and all the way up until the pre season began nobody wanted him. I did, but not for 40. He went down to 35, then 33, then out of nowhere the Angels offered him 25 for 3 years...which I was willing to pay because he had been my superstar.. He signed back with me but is now declining pretty fast...I figued he was one of those few superstars who could stay great till 35 or so

It becomes a crap shoot at that age, agreed. That was my big thing with Wieters, he was offering me a discount at the time when he asked for $15M per year....OSA had him at more of a $19-$20M per year guy. I just couldn't afford him at the time even at the reduced price, and I really had a hard time giving a 7 year deal to a 31 year old unless it was heavily front loaded.
As far as Harper, I actually traded for him, picking up his last year at $13M from the Nationals. He has been injured and has struggled to put in a full season for awhile. He's a rent-a-player for me this year. Hopefully can help us on offense, but I've got a couple of prospects at AAA that could possibly be starting next year for me if all goes well.