Dumping A Big Contract

Mister_G · 12-27-2015, 07:28 PM

I'm sure this has been brought up plenty of times, but I'm looking to unload some huge deals and looking for help.

Playing as the Rockies in the off-season. Trying to completely rebuild and thought I could get some offers for Cargo and Jose Reyes. They both had All-Star seasons (Cargo was particularly great), but have massive contracts. I figured I could shop them and get someone to bite, but no such luck. I have trading set to hard but can't even get close. When I try to trade for just one mediocre prospect the other team always wants Nolan Arenado back also.

Any suggestions?

fuzzy_patters · 12-27-2015, 07:38 PM

It's really tough to trade away big contracts. The only thing that has worked for me is to toss in prospects as well.

darkcloud4579 · 12-27-2015, 07:57 PM

Depends on the level of trade difficulty you're on. But also being realistic about who you're trying to deal. If it would't work in real life, I don't try to do it in the game.

SirMichaelJordan · 12-27-2015, 08:19 PM

You'll have better success if they are expiring contracts but overall its going to be hard on that level

NoOne · 12-28-2015, 11:51 AM

the ages of the prospects you are trading for will have a big effect too.

e.g. a SP in AAA and nearing the majors is more expensive than a similar potential SP in rookie ball. (due to risk).

apply common sense to that statement: e.g. a 27 year old AAA SP may not follow this general trend. he's no longer 'developing' or nearing that point in game and likely will never fully develope.

if that is a developed prospect, try trading for a less developed one.

RchW · 12-28-2015, 12:13 PM

Reyes is an example. He could only be traded for another big ticket.

t-bone shuffle · 12-28-2015, 12:58 PM

Also, offering to pay part of the deal usually helps. Doesn't save you all the $$, but it gets the player gone and opens up some $$ space.

jarmenia · 12-28-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by t-bone shuffle

Also, offering to pay part of the deal usually helps. Doesn't save you all the $$, but it gets the player gone and opens up some $$ space.

The issue I've always had with the way OOTP handles this is you can't pay x amount each year and instead have to have all the cash on hand at the time of the trade. It would be better if you could pay say 10% of the remaining salary each year of the contract and just have that as a line item on your payroll.

t-bone shuffle · 12-28-2015, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jarmenia

The issue I've always had with the way OOTP handles this is you can't pay x amount each year and instead have to have all the cash on hand at the time of the trade. It would be better if you could pay say 10% of the remaining salary each year of the contract and just have that as a line item on your payroll.

Agreed it should work better. OTOH, I've found that for the most part, you can get away with paying less $$ to make a deal work, than would be expected IRL, which in a small way alleviates the inability to payout as the original contract was intended. Just my experience...

RchW · 12-28-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jarmenia

The issue I've always had with the way OOTP handles this is you can't pay x amount each year and instead have to have all the cash on hand at the time of the trade. It would be better if you could pay say 10% of the remaining salary each year of the contract and just have that as a line item on your payroll.

I'm hoping that feature is on the board for v17.

Cod · 12-28-2015, 03:59 PM

I had to send half of my farm system to unload Max Scherzer once his contract hit 42 mil per year. It was hard to do, but had to be done since the Nationals owner died and his son was a "penny pincher". Looking back, I probably should've unloaded him a season before the contract dollars when up exponentially.

NoOne · 12-29-2015, 01:20 AM

stop signing contacts you can't afford

i know the sherzer one is inherited and you had no choice in the matter. i'm sure the other ones might fall in the same category, too.

Cod · 12-29-2015, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NoOne

stop signing contacts you can't afford

i know the sherzer one is inherited and you had no choice in the matter. i'm sure the other ones might fall in the same category, too.

Yes and the same goes for the Reyes contract the OP is talking about.

NoOne · 12-31-2015, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cod

Yes and the same goes for the Reyes contract the OP is talking about.

it's why i think 80% of GMs have their heads up their $#%es.

some are just not smart about financial planning, others let fans or sports writers (read: men's soap opera writers) affect their decisiosn - the absolutely worst thing any GM can do... ever.

i remember florida dumping reyes the same year they signed him to that bloated contract. along with 2 or 3 other high-priced deal.

Cod · 01-01-2016, 04:09 AM

I wish the game would allow us to restructure contracts. Granted, most players wouldn't agree with this, I believe as GMs we should have the option. For example, I wish I could restructure Max Scherzer's contract in order to add that "final piece" (if Max agreed of course).

12-27-2015, 07:28 PM	#1
Mister_G All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 576	Dumping A Big Contract I'm sure this has been brought up plenty of times, but I'm looking to unload some huge deals and looking for help. Playing as the Rockies in the off-season. Trying to completely rebuild and thought I could get some offers for Cargo and Jose Reyes. They both had All-Star seasons (Cargo was particularly great), but have massive contracts. I figured I could shop them and get someone to bite, but no such luck. I have trading set to hard but can't even get close. When I try to trade for just one mediocre prospect the other team always wants Nolan Arenado back also. Any suggestions? __________________ A man doesn't make mistakes, mistakes make the man @MisterG90

12-27-2015, 07:57 PM	#3
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12-28-2015, 12:13 PM	#6
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Reyes is an example. He could only be traded for another big ticket. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

12-27-2015, 07:38 PM	#2
fuzzy_patters All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,806	It's really tough to trade away big contracts. The only thing that has worked for me is to toss in prospects as well.

12-27-2015, 08:19 PM	#4
SirMichaelJordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,716	You'll have better success if they are expiring contracts but overall its going to be hard on that level

12-28-2015, 11:51 AM	#5
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	the ages of the prospects you are trading for will have a big effect too. e.g. a SP in AAA and nearing the majors is more expensive than a similar potential SP in rookie ball. (due to risk). apply common sense to that statement: e.g. a 27 year old AAA SP may not follow this general trend. he's no longer 'developing' or nearing that point in game and likely will never fully develope. if that is a developed prospect, try trading for a less developed one.

12-28-2015, 12:58 PM	#7
t-bone shuffle All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The dull edge of the blade Posts: 867	Also, offering to pay part of the deal usually helps. Doesn't save you all the $$, but it gets the player gone and opens up some $$ space.

12-28-2015, 03:59 PM	#11
Cod All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,109	I had to send half of my farm system to unload Max Scherzer once his contract hit 42 mil per year. It was hard to do, but had to be done since the Nationals owner died and his son was a "penny pincher". Looking back, I probably should've unloaded him a season before the contract dollars when up exponentially.

12-29-2015, 01:20 AM	#12
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	stop signing contacts you can't afford i know the sherzer one is inherited and you had no choice in the matter. i'm sure the other ones might fall in the same category, too.

01-01-2016, 04:09 AM	#15
Cod All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,109	I wish the game would allow us to restructure contracts. Granted, most players wouldn't agree with this, I believe as GMs we should have the option. For example, I wish I could restructure Max Scherzer's contract in order to add that "final piece" (if Max agreed of course).