Multi-core processing for fast sim speed

Caporegime · 02-19-2016, 12:05 PM

This is huge. This is the kind of the under-the-hood retooling the game really needed to improve performance.

Markus Heinsohn · 02-19-2016, 12:06 PM

It was a nightmare to code, just ask Matt

It's not just simming that is faster. Also things like shopping players or that dreaded teams strength report are way faster now.

rjl518 · 02-19-2016, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

It was a nightmare to code, just ask Matt

It's not just simming that is faster. Also things like shopping players or that dreaded teams strength report are way faster now.

Ill bet it was a nightmare to code that stuff. You might need some therapy before you start work on OOTP18!

Caporegime · 02-19-2016, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

It was a nightmare to code, just ask Matt

It's not just simming that is faster. Also things like shopping players or that dreaded teams strength report are way faster now.

I can only imagine. But what the heck. If it wasn't hard, it wouldn't be worth doing, right? Think of all those happy faces, especially habitual historical simmers, like me, who can't seemingly get from one decade to the next fast enough, now being able to zip from the Jazz Age to the Disco Era a whopping 60% faster.

Get down and boogie, baby!.

Matt Arnold · 02-19-2016, 12:18 PM

Yep. Couldn't thread everything, but on the whole, the game runs somewhere like 30-60% faster than it did before. Don't worry, still more improvements we can do in future versions too

Hammercraft · 02-19-2016, 12:23 PM

This is really good news, especially for those crazy people who like to sim large worlds (me). Thanks for making it happen!

RchW · 02-19-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Yep. Couldn't thread everything, but on the whole, the game runs somewhere like 30-60% faster than it did before. Don't worry, still more improvements we can do in future versions too

Somebody check this guy for a pulse. Have you always been so cool? Maybe your personality has OOTP code now.

OzzieFan · 02-19-2016, 12:58 PM

Just a worry that we might run into some nasty memory leaks because of this retooling?

The Wolf · 02-19-2016, 12:59 PM

I think that this is the biggest new feature in 17. Well done.

Matt Arnold · 02-19-2016, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OzzieFan

Just a worry that we might run into some nasty memory leaks because of this retooling?

I wouldn't worry about memory leaks. We mostly just moved stuff around.

We're working through the debugs and crashes, but have put in a lot of testing on it. There's a reason this was the first feature we worked on, and have been testing it since August. And I do make sure to only use it in specific spots - we really haven't changed the overall flow of the program, mostly just use it so instead of going through one team at a time having each set their lineup, we do them all in parallel.

Anemic_royaltea · 02-19-2016, 03:27 PM

I'm actually kind of intrigued that this is the first time it's being implemented, though it is kind of a huge change pretty deep in the belly. I haven't been let down by the games performance in recent years, but this could be a huge upgrade.

Hype is rising.

eriqjaffe · 02-19-2016, 03:28 PM

I am very excited about this. Hardly glamorous, but extraordinarily awesome.

BaseballMan · 02-19-2016, 03:41 PM

I've never had a problem with the speed. In fact I kinda like to watch the season progress. To me it's more fun to follow the playoff race than to start and be done in 5 seconds.

Matt Arnold · 02-19-2016, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

I've never had a problem with the speed. In fact I kinda like to watch the season progress. To me it's more fun to follow the playoff race than to start and be done in 5 seconds.

Well, you can still take your time if you want to "stop and smell the roses". Just think of the time that you save waiting for the game to sim as time you can take to poke through stats output instead.

WillyW3 · 02-19-2016, 03:50 PM

This should make my 274 team high school and 102 team college feeder leagues move a long a little more smoothly.

rjl518 · 02-19-2016, 04:03 PM

i have my dynasties going one month per day...i will never complain about the sim speed...

but just knowing that the simming will be faster is just awesome!

AirmenSmith · 02-19-2016, 04:26 PM

I think some stats should be in the Road to Release for OOTP 17.

Compare OOTP 16 simming sped to OOTP 17. Heck even include an older one for fun. Just a thought.

BaseballMan · 02-19-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Well, you can still take your time if you want to "stop and smell the roses". Just think of the time that you save waiting for the game to sim as time you can take to poke through stats output instead.

True but I like to do both. I'm greedy that way.
It's like watching the 78 race between the Yankees and redsox and then going over the stats when the world series is over.
Just more enjoyable to me. But yeah it is useful if your testing a league or something like that.

DustinthePOWERHOUSE · 02-19-2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

I've never had a problem with the speed. In fact I kinda like to watch the season progress. To me it's more fun to follow the playoff race than to start and be done in 5 seconds.

I think the benefit is much more oriented towards the shop a player and loading speeds being quicker than the sim speed. Especially the strength overview and shop a player feature, an increase in speed for those features would be huge.

OzzieFan · 02-19-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DustinthePOWERHOUSE

I think the benefit is much more oriented towards the shop a player and loading speeds being quicker than the sim speed. Especially the strength overview and shop a player feature, an increase in speed for those features would be huge.

Oh wow yes. If this makes shop a player faster... its a great thing to have.

02-19-2016, 12:05 PM	#1
Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,714	Multi-core processing for fast sim speed This is huge. This is the kind of the under-the-hood retooling the game really needed to improve performance. __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra

02-19-2016, 12:06 PM	#2
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	It was a nightmare to code, just ask Matt It's not just simming that is faster. Also things like shopping players or that dreaded teams strength report are way faster now. __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

02-19-2016, 03:28 PM	#12
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,628	I am very excited about this. Hardly glamorous, but extraordinarily awesome. __________________

02-19-2016, 04:03 PM	#16
rjl518 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Born in Shea Stadium, lives in LoanDepot Park. Posts: 6,242	i have my dynasties going one month per day...i will never complain about the sim speed... but just knowing that the simming will be faster is just awesome! __________________ My Threads: MLB Project 32 by SFGiants58 "Colon looking for his 1st hit of the year and he DRIVES ONE! Deep left field! Back goes Upton! Back near the wall! ITS OUTTA HERE!!! Bartolo has done it!!! THE IMPOSSIBLE HAS HAPPENED!!! This is one of the great moments in the history of baseball! Bartolo Colon has gone deep!" ---Gary Cohen. (May 7, 2016) (Petco Park) NYM 6 @ SD 3

02-19-2016, 04:26 PM	#17
AirmenSmith Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 2,094	I think some stats should be in the Road to Release for OOTP 17. Compare OOTP 16 simming sped to OOTP 17. Heck even include an older one for fun. Just a thought. __________________ Come join me on my Twitch Channel for gaming at its excellence Twitch Link

02-19-2016, 12:18 PM	#5
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,686	Yep. Couldn't thread everything, but on the whole, the game runs somewhere like 30-60% faster than it did before. Don't worry, still more improvements we can do in future versions too

02-19-2016, 12:23 PM	#6
Hammercraft All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 729	This is really good news, especially for those crazy people who like to sim large worlds (me). Thanks for making it happen!

02-19-2016, 12:58 PM	#8
OzzieFan Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 248	Just a worry that we might run into some nasty memory leaks because of this retooling?

02-19-2016, 03:27 PM	#11
Anemic_royaltea Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Vancouver Posts: 38	I'm actually kind of intrigued that this is the first time it's being implemented, though it is kind of a huge change pretty deep in the belly. I haven't been let down by the games performance in recent years, but this could be a huge upgrade. Hype is rising.

02-19-2016, 03:41 PM	#13
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,424	I've never had a problem with the speed. In fact I kinda like to watch the season progress. To me it's more fun to follow the playoff race than to start and be done in 5 seconds.

02-19-2016, 03:50 PM	#15
WillyW3 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 91	This should make my 274 team high school and 102 team college feeder leagues move a long a little more smoothly.