How to manage morale?

javydreamercsw · 03-23-2016, 01:52 PM

Let me start by saying this is my first time playing the game and I'm hooked by the level of detail of this game.

On my current season, I'm getting a lot of complaints due to low morale in the dugout. How can I handle this? How can I identify the trouble makers?

Thanks in advance!

mitchkenn · 03-23-2016, 02:43 PM

most important is to win.

but you also need someone or two who are "captains".

and if you click on each player, and then click on edit, on the left side under "personality" it should give something like "normal" captain" "hustler". If you find "slacker" or worse "cancer", those are good bets to try and unload.

but really, sometimes i've seen those complaints and no one is a stand out problem and i never did figure out a way to boost morale on those squads. so i just got rid of as many under performers as i could and waited for the next draft to change things ... it worked as often as not.

javydreamercsw · 03-23-2016, 02:48 PM

I was hoping to be able to sort by morale in one of the player views but saw no way to do it.

One by one is not efficient. Just wanted to know if someone knew a way.

javydreamercsw · 03-23-2016, 02:55 PM

I just hope the simulation is off or the Rangers will have an awful season this year :P

ohiodevil · 03-23-2016, 03:26 PM

Sometimes hiring a coach that is good in the clubhouse works too. I had some issues in my clubhouse and made a change at Bench Coach to a guy that it said was very good in clubhouse, and it seemed to fix the problem.

javydreamercsw · 03-23-2016, 04:28 PM

Thanks for the tip!

wolverinebball11 · 03-23-2016, 04:40 PM

It will generally help morale if you have players with high leadership ability. You can look at the BNN Page on a player's profile to see it. Too many players with low leadership, especially if they aren't offset by others with high leadership, tends to make your players upset.

Baldrick88 · 03-23-2016, 08:32 PM

This moral in the clubhouse is a pain. I can't control it everyone is unhappy and there is no cause. Reminds me of Football Manger where they get pissed off too easily.

Cod · 03-23-2016, 09:08 PM

Like Wolverinebball11 said, having players with high or very high leadership ability helps as well. You need to look at all those "intangibles". Things such as loyalty, intelligence, etc. since they all have some effect on the overall team chemistry.

wolverinebball11 · 03-24-2016, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Baldrick88

This moral in the clubhouse is a pain. I can't control it everyone is unhappy and there is no cause. Reminds me of Football Manger where they get pissed off too easily.

Nah you can control it. There's always a cause, it's up to you to find out what it is!

Baldrick88 · 03-24-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wolverinebball11

Nah you can control it. There's always a cause, it's up to you to find out what it is!

Detective game now too LOL

OK I let go or traded everyone with low leadership. Did the scan of their personalitys in commish mode (only looking at that, no cheating) and they are all normal. Sigh, now do i demote them one at a time to see if it's that person? Why don't they just say who it is?!

Thanks All for your help, but this problem is making my winning team loose!

ohiodevil · 03-24-2016, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Baldrick88

Detective game now too LOL

OK I let go or traded everyone with low leadership. Did the scan of their personalitys in commish mode (only looking at that, no cheating) and they are all normal. Sigh, now do i demote them one at a time to see if it's that person? Why don't they just say who it is?!

Thanks All for your help, but this problem is making my winning team loose!

Have you tried bringing in a coach who is good in the clubhouse? Not sure if you are using the real rosters of fictional, but I signed a coach with the last name Moran (not in front of the game) and it says he is great in the clubhouse, plus I just acquired Travis d'Arnaud and got the message that the players are excited for his addition because of his great leadership.

And if all else fails, you can turn off player morale.

Baldrick88 · 03-25-2016, 11:52 AM

Tried all the suggestions and they all still hate each other. Removed ANYONE who isn't normal in all the categories. Guess I turn it off. What a silly feature.

ohiodevil · 03-25-2016, 12:04 PM

How much time are you giving for things to improve? I does not happen over night, I think it too my team a couple of months to see any kind of improvement.

Baldrick88 · 03-26-2016, 11:37 AM

A few months after the purge nothing happened. At the end of the season I let a bunch go, including my star player $25 Mil 5 star center fielder, who was full of him self (I wonder why?), my coaches etc. Next season now with players who are leaders and aren't selfish. Still the same problem. I turned it off as it's just crazy. Am I a detective or a shrink? At least in Football Mogul they tell you who they hate.

I want to play with all the difficulty and options, we need more info on why they get mad. The AI deals with it quite nicely.

Painmantle · 03-26-2016, 11:50 AM

You can have problem players but you need leaders to balance the scale. if you have 3 guys with low/very low leadership/ethic/loyalty your gonna need guys with high/very high leadership to counter weight your clubhouse. Clubhouses don't fall apart overnight and they don't get fixed overnight. you need to keep an eye on stuff and fix it before it becomes a problem

Here is an example, it is kinda like a guy cutting a fart in the classroom, "The Smeller is the feller" On this NY Giants team I have a total of 3 players who have Team chemistry issues. In the picture below we see the problem child. Bottom left of his card " He is upset due to disruptive influences on the team" Two other guys have the same thing in that area, BUT This player is the only one who has anything negative in his "Personality"

So my options are Get rid of McMichael, get rid of the two guys he's pissing off and hope he doesn't make more people mad, or I can try to get more leaders on my team and see if they can reign it in. Obviously the fastest, safest surest way to resolve this before it becomes a clubhouse wide problem is to get rid of McMichale

If you have a pissed off team, it's usually the guy complaining the loudest that is the issue, But an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, you need to keep an eye on your players

Painmantle · 03-26-2016, 11:56 AM

Oh yeah, and winning can solve a lot of problems too

Baldrick88 · 03-27-2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

Oh yeah, and winning can solve a lot of problems too

Well I've tried everything. Bad moral makes you loose too which makes it worse. I give up on moral!! I'm not stupid but I have no trouble makers, i have leaders, vet leadership, and everyone is massively unhappy no matter what I do. Spent 6 seasons trying to make people happy and that's IT! I've reset happiness a few times but 6-7 games in everyone is angry face at me.

Painmantle · 03-28-2016, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Baldrick88

Well I've tried everything. Bad moral makes you loose too which makes it worse. I give up on moral!! I'm not stupid but I have no trouble makers, i have leaders, vet leadership, and everyone is massively unhappy no matter what I do. Spent 6 seasons trying to make people happy and that's IT! I've reset happiness a few times but 6-7 games in everyone is angry face at me.

If everyone is angry faced then you simply aren't paying enough attention to that area, so turning Moral off is probably the best solution. OOTP has a lot of depth and not all aspects are ideal for everyone's sim style and/or taste

Baldrick88 · 03-28-2016, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

If everyone is angry faced then you simply aren't paying enough attention to that area, so turning Moral off is probably the best solution. OOTP has a lot of depth and not all aspects are ideal for everyone's sim style and/or taste

True man!! I built a good team but they all hate each other. There must be a Yoko in there breaking them apart. I even hired 43 year old AJ Perzenski to add some grey fatherly love to the team but they hate him too. LOL

03-23-2016, 01:52 PM	#1
javydreamercsw Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 4	How to manage morale? Let me start by saying this is my first time playing the game and I'm hooked by the level of detail of this game. On my current season, I'm getting a lot of complaints due to low morale in the dugout. How can I handle this? How can I identify the trouble makers? Thanks in advance!

03-23-2016, 02:43 PM	#2
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	most important is to win. but you also need someone or two who are "captains". and if you click on each player, and then click on edit, on the left side under "personality" it should give something like "normal" captain" "hustler". If you find "slacker" or worse "cancer", those are good bets to try and unload. but really, sometimes i've seen those complaints and no one is a stand out problem and i never did figure out a way to boost morale on those squads. so i just got rid of as many under performers as i could and waited for the next draft to change things ... it worked as often as not. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

03-26-2016, 11:50 AM	#16
Painmantle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenfield ,IN Posts: 3,053	You can have problem players but you need leaders to balance the scale. if you have 3 guys with low/very low leadership/ethic/loyalty your gonna need guys with high/very high leadership to counter weight your clubhouse. Clubhouses don't fall apart overnight and they don't get fixed overnight. you need to keep an eye on stuff and fix it before it becomes a problem Here is an example, it is kinda like a guy cutting a fart in the classroom, "The Smeller is the feller" On this NY Giants team I have a total of 3 players who have Team chemistry issues. In the picture below we see the problem child. Bottom left of his card " He is upset due to disruptive influences on the team" Two other guys have the same thing in that area, BUT This player is the only one who has anything negative in his "Personality" So my options are Get rid of McMichael, get rid of the two guys he's pissing off and hope he doesn't make more people mad, or I can try to get more leaders on my team and see if they can reign it in. Obviously the fastest, safest surest way to resolve this before it becomes a clubhouse wide problem is to get rid of McMichale If you have a pissed off team, it's usually the guy complaining the loudest that is the issue, But an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, you need to keep an eye on your players __________________ “As soon as I got out there I felt a strange relationship with the pitcher's mound. It was as if I'd been born out there. Pitching just felt like the most natural thing in the world. Striking out batters was easy.” -Babe Ruth “Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week, he might have lasted a long time and become a great star.”-Tris Speaker My Dynasties The Beantown Bambino Last edited by Painmantle; 03-26-2016 at 11:54 AM.

03-26-2016, 11:56 AM	#17
Painmantle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenfield ,IN Posts: 3,053	Oh yeah, and winning can solve a lot of problems too __________________ “As soon as I got out there I felt a strange relationship with the pitcher's mound. It was as if I'd been born out there. Pitching just felt like the most natural thing in the world. Striking out batters was easy.” -Babe Ruth “Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week, he might have lasted a long time and become a great star.”-Tris Speaker My Dynasties The Beantown Bambino

03-23-2016, 02:48 PM	#3
javydreamercsw Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 4	I was hoping to be able to sort by morale in one of the player views but saw no way to do it. One by one is not efficient. Just wanted to know if someone knew a way.

03-23-2016, 02:55 PM	#4
javydreamercsw Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 4	I just hope the simulation is off or the Rangers will have an awful season this year :P

03-23-2016, 03:26 PM	#5
ohiodevil OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rocky River, Ohio Posts: 2,416	Sometimes hiring a coach that is good in the clubhouse works too. I had some issues in my clubhouse and made a change at Bench Coach to a guy that it said was very good in clubhouse, and it seemed to fix the problem.

03-23-2016, 04:28 PM	#6
javydreamercsw Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 4	Thanks for the tip!

03-23-2016, 04:40 PM	#7
wolverinebball11 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 39	It will generally help morale if you have players with high leadership ability. You can look at the BNN Page on a player's profile to see it. Too many players with low leadership, especially if they aren't offset by others with high leadership, tends to make your players upset.

03-23-2016, 08:32 PM	#8
Baldrick88 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 47	This moral in the clubhouse is a pain. I can't control it everyone is unhappy and there is no cause. Reminds me of Football Manger where they get pissed off too easily.

03-23-2016, 09:08 PM	#9
Cod All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,075	Like Wolverinebball11 said, having players with high or very high leadership ability helps as well. You need to look at all those "intangibles". Things such as loyalty, intelligence, etc. since they all have some effect on the overall team chemistry.

03-25-2016, 11:52 AM	#13
Baldrick88 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 47	Tried all the suggestions and they all still hate each other. Removed ANYONE who isn't normal in all the categories. Guess I turn it off. What a silly feature.

03-25-2016, 12:04 PM	#14
ohiodevil OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rocky River, Ohio Posts: 2,416	How much time are you giving for things to improve? I does not happen over night, I think it too my team a couple of months to see any kind of improvement.

03-26-2016, 11:37 AM	#15
Baldrick88 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 47	A few months after the purge nothing happened. At the end of the season I let a bunch go, including my star player $25 Mil 5 star center fielder, who was full of him self (I wonder why?), my coaches etc. Next season now with players who are leaders and aren't selfish. Still the same problem. I turned it off as it's just crazy. Am I a detective or a shrink? At least in Football Mogul they tell you who they hate. I want to play with all the difficulty and options, we need more info on why they get mad. The AI deals with it quite nicely.