Playing on Minor League and Major League team(on the same day)?

[Orioles1966]

I was watching a Reno Ace's game. In the line-up they had Frank Robinson and Al Kaline and after the game was over I watched the Arizona Diamondback's game. F Robby and Kaline also appeared in that game. They played with Reno and Arizona on the same day. Is that possible in OOTP17(except for the player editor feature)?

I was wondering why the Diamondback's game was played so late. That was probably why players were playing in both games.

[tward13]

I'm wondering how Frank Robinson and Al Kaline are playing on the Arizona Diamondbacks.

But why not in real life. Normally guys are pulled form their minor league game if being sent to the majors. But if the minors play at noon and AZ plays at 7:30pm it could happen.

Joel Youngblood once played for two major league teams in different cities on teh same day.

[Orioles1966]

Originally Posted by tward13

I'm wondering how Frank Robinson and Al Kaline are playing on the Arizona Diamondbacks.

But why not in real life. Normally guys are pulled form their minor league game if being sent to the majors. But if the minors play at noon and AZ plays at 7:30pm it could happen.

Joel Youngblood once played for two major league teams in different cities on teh same day.

Once I expand my leagues and running short on players ,I cherry pick off major league rosters from past seasons. Right now I have MLB 1965,MLB 1977 and MLB 1990 in reserve for players. I need to guard against duplicate players. That's why I usually seperate the cherry picking leagues by 13 years so duplicates will be at a minimum.

I wonder if there has ever been a suspended game where a player played on both teams?

[tward13]

Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Once I expand my leagues and running short on players ,I cherry pick off major league rosters from past seasons. Right now I have MLB 1965,MLB 1977 and MLB 1990 in reserve for players. I need to guard against duplicate players. That's why I usually seperate the cherry picking leagues by 13 years so duplicates will be at a minimum.

I wonder if there has ever been a suspended game where a player played on both teams?

Don't think that could happen. There has been a player traded between games of a doubleheader who played one game for each team.

[Orioles1966]

Originally Posted by tward13

Don't think that could happen. There has been a player traded between games of a doubleheader who played one game for each team.

If the Yankees game tonight vs Red Sox is suspended after 7 innings and Andrew Miller pitched the 7th inning for NYY and then got traded to the Red Sox ,he couldn't appear for Red Sox in the same game? I thought the rule was a player couldn't re-enter the game for one team ,not two,but don't think its ever happened anyways.

Players that weren't on the original roster for the original game can appear in the resumed suspended game. Miller wasn't on the Red Sox roster the first time but I dont see why he couldn't re-appear.

[bwburke94]

Originally Posted by Orioles1966

If the Yankees game tonight vs Red Sox is suspended after 7 innings and Andrew Miller pitched the 7th inning for NYY and then got traded to the Red Sox ,he couldn't appear for Red Sox in the same game? I thought the rule was a player couldn't re-enter the game for one team ,not two,but don't think its ever happened anyways.

Players that weren't on the original roster for the original game can appear in the resumed suspended game. Miller wasn't on the Red Sox roster the first time but I dont see why he couldn't re-appear.

There isn't a rule, so it could technically happen. Due to the rarity of major league suspended games, I doubt it will happen, but there's always a chance.

It's happened in the NBA a few times, despite the relative rarity of suspended basketball games.

[Elf Marine]

Originally Posted by Orioles1966

If the Yankees game tonight vs Red Sox is suspended after 7 innings and Andrew Miller pitched the 7th inning for NYY and then got traded to the Red Sox ,he couldn't appear for Red Sox in the same game? I thought the rule was a player couldn't re-enter the game for one team ,not two,but don't think its ever happened anyways.

Players that weren't on the original roster for the original game can appear in the resumed suspended game. Miller wasn't on the Red Sox roster the first time but I dont see why he couldn't re-appear.

If my memory from umpiring is correct, it would not be possible to leave a game while with team A then later come back in the same game for team B. The reason why is the rule did not say cannot reenter for that team. I believe it said cannot reenter the game. That would mean for any team. I would have to read the rule. That is a case my partners and I would discuss and then probably not allow the reentry and tell team 2 they could appeal the game if they believe we were wrong. It doesn't do them a lot of good, but, they can appeal and play the game under protest. After the game I would be calling the Umpire in Chief and see what he had to say if it was one of the leagues I umpired in and was not the Umpire in Chief. lol I know, they shouldn't be umpiring. However, we had a shortage of umpires so I always asked the Managers before the game if they would like me to umpire or if they wanted to play the game short an umpire. I usually got the comment that in the case of me they had no objection and wanted me to umpire.

[Elf Marine]

Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Players that weren't on the original roster for the original game can appear in the resumed suspended game. Miller wasn't on the Red Sox roster the first time but I dont see why he couldn't re-appear.

If my memory from umpiring is correct, it would not be possible to leave a game while with team A then later come back in the same game for team B. The reason why is the rule did not say cannot reenter for that team. I believe it said cannot reenter the game. That would mean for any team. I would have to read the rule. That is a case my partners and I would discuss and then probably not allow the reentry and tell team 2 they could appeal the game if they believe we were wrong. It doesn't do them a lot of good, but, they can appeal and play the game under protest. Problem two is the rosters with batting order submitted to the umpires before the game. That can't be changed during the game. It is unlikely there would be a situation where the change would be done and it never is a violation of what was submitted prior to the game. I would have to diagram it and see if it were possible and have the other umpires give their thoughts. Likely we would prevent that and tell the manager they can play the remainder of the game under protest (in the event of a trade probably both teams could). It won't do them a great deal of good, but, it can be done.

[Elf Marine]

I see I repeated myself. Almost 4am and I'm sleepy. Sorry.

[bwburke94]

Originally Posted by TSWaters

I see I repeated myself. Almost 4am and I'm sleepy. Sorry.

I also see you couldn't find the "edit post" button, but that's not the point, is it? We have an apparent contradiction in rules here.

Emphasis mine.

Originally Posted by 2016 OBR, Rule 7.02(c) - old Rule 4.12(c)

A suspended game shall be resumed at the exact point of suspension of the original game. The completion of a suspended game is a continuation of the original game. The lineup and batting order of both teams shall be exactly the
same as the lineup and batting order at the moment of suspension, subject to the rules governing substitution. Any player may be replaced by a player who had not been in the game prior to the suspension. No player removed before the suspension may be returned to the lineup.

A player who was not with the club when the game was suspended may be used as a substitute, even if he has taken the place of a player no longer with the club who would not have been eligible because he had been removed from the lineup before the game was suspended.

There's one citation that directly allows the player to play for both teams, and one citation that directly blocks this. If the situation arises, a ruling would probably be made before the resumption of the game to avoid the resumption being played under protest.

My best guess is that the player would be allowed to play for both teams, based on two precedents:

• This SABR article lists cases where it could have happened, and does not indicate that anything in the rules prevents the situation.

• Admittedly this was a joke/publicity stunt, but Will Ferrell did it in spring training.

[NoOne]

looks like he'd be able to enter the game as a sub for his new team. which club controls him would trump the "same lineup as when suspended" portion of the rule, if he was in the game for the other team. teh part about removal of a player before suspension is relative to the 1 team.... it's not meant to consider that the player could be on the other team at a later date relative to what it's trying to define.

didn't delmon Young walk from the minnesota dugout to tigers dugout between a double header? or was that just a few minutes before the game started? definitely wasn't during a game.