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OOTP 17 - General Discussions Everything about the latest Out of the Park Baseball - officially licensed by MLB.com and the MLBPA. |
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So, suggestions wanted.
I have a fictional league with 16 teams, 5 levels of minors. It's US-based, just kind of "alternate reality". All of the teams at all levels are set up with custom unis/logos, etc. On top of that, I do use college and feeder leagues. I have one college feeder and four HS feeders with a whole mess of teams. Can't remember the exact number, but it's enough to keep my league working well. I think it's 40 college teams and like 120 high school teams. But the feeders are also driving me nuts. Right now, they are just set up with OOTP-generated team names and so on. So I get the right number of players, but there is no realism in the names or birth cities, etc. I'd really like to add some realism, but I can't think of a way to make it more realistic. I'd love to use real colleges and real high schools, but how do I choose a representative sample when there are hundreds and hundreds of colleges, and thousands of high schools, and I only need 40/120? What would you do, fellow OOTPers?
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I have a 16 team fictional league structure similar to yours only I am using real MLB and minor league team names.
I have an NCAA feeder league as well as high school teams that I call academy leagues. I wrestled with how to deal with the high schools and decided on the academy idea so that each of my academy leagues draw players from a different region of the USA with small percentage of foreigners from certain countries being allowed as well. My league is based in the 1940s right now and most of the teams have some nice logos and uniforms thanks to the Retro Style Logos and Uniforms thread. Here is an excerpt of one of the early posts in my dynasty report on this league that explains the college and academy structure and team names. It is almost time for spring training 1939. The New York Giants are defending World Series champions after a thrilling come from behind victory over the Yankees. Harvard beat the University of Minnesota in the maximum 5 games to win the College World Series. Since I wanted the college and high school teams to play 120 game schedules and have players available for the June draft their leagues start in mid to late January and run through until early June. I ignore the obvious weather issues for the northern based teams. The college season is in full swing. The 36 teams are divided into two leagues with 3 divisions each. The East features the ACC, SEC and Ivy League while the Big 6, Southwest and Pac 6 represent the west. Players come from all over the country and occasionally there is a foreign player or two in the league. Here are the standings at the 1/3 mark of the season. I put the number of national titles won by each team in brackets Code:
NCAA STANDINGS Feb 23, 1939 EAST WEST Atlantic Coast Division BIG SIX DIVISION Clemson 26 14 2 Wisconsin 25 15 5 Maryland 22 18 Michigan St. 24 16 North Carolina 21 19 1 Ohio State 22 18 2 Virginia 19 21 Michigan 19 21 NC State 18 22 Minnesota 18 22 3 Georgia Tech 13 27 1 Notre Dame 10 30 1 SOUTHEAST DIVISION SOUTHWEST DIVISION Alabama 26 14 2 Arkansas 26 14 1 Georgia 24 16 Texas 24 16 1 Tennessee 22 18 Texas Tech 23 17 LSU 19 21 1 Oklahoma 23 17 3 Mississippi 17 23 Nebraska 19 21 Kentucky 15 25 Arizona State 19 21 IVY DIVISION PACIFIC SIX DIVISION Harvard 25 15 2 UCLA 25 15 3 Yale 20 20 1 Washington St 20 20 Dartmouth 19 21 USC 17 23 2 Columbia 19 21 Stanford 16 24 1 Brown 19 21 1 Oregon State 16 24 1 Princeton 16 24 3 California 14 26 1 My universe has 5 different high school level or as I prefer to call them "Baseball Academy" level leagues. The 3 biggest leagues are the Florida Academy League, The Northeast Academy League and the Western Academy League. Each of those leagues have 2 subleagues of 8 teams each and like the college league play a 120 game schedule from late January until early June finishing with a best of 5 championship series between each sub-league winner. There is no national academy championship at this stage of the universe. There are also 2 six-team leagues: The Midwest League and the MidAtlantic League. I have modified some of the team names recently to take advantage of the great logos, uniforms and caps created by this community. Here is a brief look at each of the 5 leagues. I have added the current standings so you can get an idea of the team names as players progress through the league and when I reference the academy career of big leaguer. Code:
FLORIDA ACADEMY STANDINGS Feb 23, 1939 Atlantic League W L GB Gulf League W L GB Daytona Beach Cubs 21 9 - Sarasota Stone Crabs 19 10 - Palm Beach Cardinals 21 10 0.5 Bradenton Mauraders 19 10 - Jacksonville Whales 19 9 1.0 Tallahassee Rebels 17 13 2.5 Ft Lauderdale Lobsters 14 15 6.5 Port Charlotte Anglers 16 13 3.0 Miami Beach Pelicans 13 16 7.5 Pensacola Bees 15 16 5.0 Key West Conchs 12 17 8.5 Panama City Flamingos 12 19 8.0 Orlando Sun Sox 12 19 9.5 St Petersburg Redbirds 10 18 8.5 Jupiter Hammerheads 6 23 14.5 Lakeland Pilots 10 19 9.0 The two most dominant teams in the Florida Academy League are the Pensacola Bees and the Jacksonville Whales. The Bees have won 11 Gulf League titles in the 38 years of the league along with 7 Florida Series titles. The Whales have won 10 pennants in the Atlantic League including the last 2 in a row and have 4 Florida Series titles to their credit. The Northeast League has developed more pro players than any of the 5 Academy Leagues. It is comprised of players born in the northeastern United States with the occasional Canadian also entering the league. The 2 leagues are called the Cape Cod League and the Metro NY League. Here are the current standings for this season to give you a full list of teams in the league. Code:
NORTHEAST ACADEMY STANDINGS Feb 23, 1939 CAPE COD LEAGUE W L GB METRO NY League W L GB Cotuit Kettlers 19 10 - Brooklyn Bees 18 11 - Bourne Braves 18 13 2.0 Staten Island Ports 16 13 2.0 Falmouth Commodores 16 13 3.0 Long Island Ducks 16 13 2.0 Chatham Anglers 17 14 3.0 Bronx Bombers 17 14 2.0 Brewster Whitecaps 13 16 6.0 Queens Monarchs 15 13 2.5 Yarmouth Red Sox 13 17 6.5 Manhattan Pigeons 14 16 4.5 Harwich Mariners 12 17 7.0 Coney Island Tigers 12 19 7.0 Hyannis Harbor Hawks 10 18 8.5 Yonkers Bears 10 19 8.0 The Western Academy League is the last of the 3 16-team groupings. Players come from the southwest and pacific United States as well as a few from Mexico. The Los Angeles Chargers were the first dynasty as they won 6 pennants and 4 Western Series in the league's first 6 years of existence from 1901-06. Since then it has been mainly hard times for the Chargers squad but their 6 Western Series titles and 10 Pacific League pennants still top the loop. Two Desert League teams in the Utah Stars and Central Texas Comets are tied for second with 5 Western Series titles each. Code:
WESTERN ACADEMY STANDINGS Feb 23, 1939 PACIFIC LEAGUE W L GB DESERT LEAGUE W L GB Hawaii Islanders 22 6 - Austin Marshalls 16 12 - Dakota Loggers 20 10 3.0 Salt Lake Gulls 15 14 1.5 Northern Cal Stars 16 13 6.5 North Texas Cubs 15 14 1.5 San Francisco Miners 14 15 8.5 New Mexico Aztecs 15 14 1.5 Oregon Timbers 13 16 9.5 Oklahoma Oilers 15 15 2.0 Arizona Desert Dogs 12 17 10.5 West Texas Spiders 15 16 2.5 California Seals 11 20 12.5 Central Texas Comets 14 15 2.5 Los Angeles Chargers 10 21 13.5 Utah Stars 13 18 4.5 Sam Herrera has all the makings of being a future major league superstar and is the player to keep an eye on in the Desert League. Just 16 years old and, like Fuller a native of San Marcos, California, the righthander has taken the Desert loop by storm going 6-0 with a 2.21 era in his first 7 starts and is a big reason why the Austin Marshalls are in first place. The other two Academy Leagues consist of just 6 teams each and while they both still play 120 game seasons, neither has a post-season. The Midwest Academy League consists of players from the midwestern United States as well as Ontario, Canada while the MidAtlantic League features players from the atlantic area states. Here are the current standings in each league Code:
MIDWEST ACADEMY STANDINGS Feb 23, 1939 W L GB St Louis Arches 11 6 - Fort Wayne Tincaps 10 7 1.0 Ohio Redcoats 9 8 2.0 Pennsylvania Nationals 8 9 3.0 Michigan Lakers 8 9 3.0 Chicagoland Bombers 5 12 6.0 MID-ATLANTIC ACADEMY STANDINGS Feb 23, 1939 W L GB Carolina Kings 11 6 - Virigina Beach Colonials 10 7 1.0 Washington DC Chiefs 9 8 2.0 Philadelphia Quakers 7 10 4.0 Milford Sandpipers 7 10 4.0 District Capitals 7 10 4.0 The Carolina Kings have dominated the Mid-Atlantic Academy loop winning 12 league titles. The Quakers, with 7, are next followed by the 6 won by Virginia Beach.
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Similar to what Tiger Fan has done above but I made all the feeder league teams to area baseball academies and I differentiated between HS and COL by making them Junior and Senior Baseball Academies.
So I would either have the academies based in states or regions....ie New England Senior Academy along with Maine, Rhode Island, New Hampshire Junior Academies. Or a California Senior Academy while splitting up Calif with multiple Junior Academies. You could mix in some regular schools too (would maybe be some school leagues). Last edited by byzeil; 05-05-2016 at 01:06 AM. |
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For my 64 college team feeder league I took the top 100 college baseball programs plus some teams I was going to include regardless (hello Ivy league) and dwindled it down to a shortened NCAA universe of 8 conferences that have 8 teams each. The top 4 from each conference go on to their conference playoffs and the conference winners then to the college world series. I was able to do that with custom playoffs and I'm fine with that.
For my high school feeder I was going to state area teams throughout the country with no playoffs but the academy idea sounds interesting. I do have an academy setup for my mexican high school feeder for my mexican league. For my Japanese and Korean leagues I have high schools and took some real high schools that made it to their countries tournaments and just plopped them in. They compete in a very shortened high school tournament for their playoffs just like they do in real life but on a much smaller scale. You'll go nuts trying to make sure it's all realistic but for feeders you have to live with some compromises. Last edited by andyhdz; 05-06-2016 at 04:20 PM. |
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This is awesome. Any chance you can share the 64 that made the cut? Mine is pretty close to that number, that would help me a lot.
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Jesus Tiger Fan, that is quite some level of detail, thanks!!!!
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I used this list to get my 64. It's pretty recent and the cool thing is you can copy their list and paste to excel so you can do sorting and filters.
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I love the academy idea for HS feeders. I'mma gonna steal it.
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