Incorrect earned-run calculation

Redleg · 08-12-2016, 03:09 PM

First batter of the inning, Sonny Jackson, reaches on an error, but is then caught stealing on a strike 'em out, throw 'em out double play. Hal Reniff goes on to allow four very earned runs in the inning, but OOTP says all four are unearned.

Yes, Jackson reached on an error, but he was then erased on the caught stealing, canceling out the error. Never in the history of baseball have there been three outs recorded after the first two batters of an inning. However, in this case, OOTP is counting Jackson out twice: once on the error and once on the caught stealing.

BOTTOM OF THE 8TH
Houston Astros batting - Pitching for New York Mets : RHP Hal Reniff

Batting: LHB Sonny Jackson
0-2: Reached on error, E3 (Groundball, 34)

Batting: RHB Ron Brand
3-2: Strikes out swinging
Sonny Jackson is caught stealing 2nd base
Batter strikes out.

Batting: LHB Norm Miller
3-0: Base on Balls

Batting: RHB Doug Rader
3-2: Base on Balls
Norm Miller to second

Batting: RHB Jackie Brandt
0-1: DOUBLE (Line Drive, 78D)
Norm Miller scores
Doug Rader to third

Pinch Hitting: RHB Chuck Harrison
0-2: SINGLE (Groundball, 6D)
Doug Rader scores
Jackie Brandt to third
Runner from 3rd tries for Home, SAFE, no throw

Batting: RHB Julio Gotay
3-0: Base on Balls
Chuck Harrison to second

Batting: RHB Aaron Pointer
3-2: Base on Balls
Chuck Harrison to third
Julio Gotay to second

Batting: LHB Eddie Mathews
3-1: Base on Balls
Chuck Harrison scores
Julio Gotay to third
Aaron Pointer to second

Pitching: RHP Amos Otis

Batting: LHB Sonny Jackson
1-0: Fly out, F8 (Flyball, 89M)

Bottom of the 8th over - 4 run(s), 2 hit(s), 1 error(s), 3 left on base; New York 5 - Houston 5

NEW YORK PITCHING LINESCORES
Player IP H R ER BB K HR PI PS ERA
H. Reniff 2.2 2 4 0 5 2 0 62 29 3.09

bwburke94 · 08-13-2016, 08:58 AM

This one again? Thought it was fixed ages ago.

Redleg · 08-13-2016, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwburke94

This one again? Thought it was fixed ages ago.

This happened using 17.10.67, so, yeah, unfortunately.

bwburke94 · 08-14-2016, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redleg

Never in the history of baseball have there been three outs recorded after the first two batters of an inning.

I'm going full technicality here, but on one occasion in the 19th century this actually happened. Umpire botched the batting-out-of-turn rule.

08-12-2016, 03:09 PM	#1
Redleg Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 48	Incorrect earned-run calculation First batter of the inning, Sonny Jackson, reaches on an error, but is then caught stealing on a strike 'em out, throw 'em out double play. Hal Reniff goes on to allow four very earned runs in the inning, but OOTP says all four are unearned. Yes, Jackson reached on an error, but he was then erased on the caught stealing, canceling out the error. Never in the history of baseball have there been three outs recorded after the first two batters of an inning. However, in this case, OOTP is counting Jackson out twice: once on the error and once on the caught stealing. BOTTOM OF THE 8TH Houston Astros batting - Pitching for New York Mets : RHP Hal Reniff Batting: LHB Sonny Jackson 0-2: Reached on error, E3 (Groundball, 34) Batting: RHB Ron Brand 3-2: Strikes out swinging Sonny Jackson is caught stealing 2nd base Batter strikes out. Batting: LHB Norm Miller 3-0: Base on Balls Batting: RHB Doug Rader 3-2: Base on Balls Norm Miller to second Batting: RHB Jackie Brandt 0-1: DOUBLE (Line Drive, 78D) Norm Miller scores Doug Rader to third Pinch Hitting: RHB Chuck Harrison 0-2: SINGLE (Groundball, 6D) Doug Rader scores Jackie Brandt to third Runner from 3rd tries for Home, SAFE, no throw Batting: RHB Julio Gotay 3-0: Base on Balls Chuck Harrison to second Batting: RHB Aaron Pointer 3-2: Base on Balls Chuck Harrison to third Julio Gotay to second Batting: LHB Eddie Mathews 3-1: Base on Balls Chuck Harrison scores Julio Gotay to third Aaron Pointer to second Pitching: RHP Amos Otis Batting: LHB Sonny Jackson 1-0: Fly out, F8 (Flyball, 89M) Bottom of the 8th over - 4 run(s), 2 hit(s), 1 error(s), 3 left on base; New York 5 - Houston 5 NEW YORK PITCHING LINESCORES Player IP H R ER BB K HR PI PS ERA H. Reniff 2.2 2 4 0 5 2 0 62 29 3.09

08-13-2016, 08:58 AM	#2
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,504	This one again? Thought it was fixed ages ago.