So, about that pricey superb Japanese scout...

Qeltar · 04-28-2018, 04:40 PM

My current scout is not bad. His ratings are Great / Great / Excellent / Excellent.

However, I am noticing significant disparities between what he seems to think a lot of players are worth and what other teams think they are worth. This would be fine, except that many of the guys he really likes seem to be underperforming. It's less than one full season, so I do understand the small sample size issue. But I also wonder if I should upgrade in this area.

I just feel like my hands are tied by not getting good enough information.

There's a Japanese scout with insanely good ratings. I've heard others talk about him before. Some said he was great, others said he was TOO good and made the game simply too easy. For a rebuilding team, accurate scouting is extremely important, but I don't want someone who is "unrealistically perfect." Any thoughts on this?

Should I maybe pick someone who's better but not "Excellent" or "Outstanding" everywhere?

BTW my existing scout is half a mill a year for the rest of this year and 3 more. If I fire him, do I pay all of that up front? If so, I am actually fine with that, as I have a bunch of cash on hand right now that I don't have anything to spend on through the end of the season.

Thanks.

PS He's made three "discoveries" so far that are so horrendous that IRL I would have chastised him for even emailing me about them. I mean, the absolute worst scrubs imagineable, one guy had literally not even one potential rating near average.

Qeltar · 04-28-2018, 06:46 PM

I just did a test where I hired the guy and then had him rescout my entire organization.

I don't know if I want to get this "Mr. Perfect" but boy is it clear that my existing scout needs to go. I mean, most of my top draft picks have languished in their first year and this rescout tells me why.

Also a number of the "great trades" I did this year were illusions based on bad scouting.

I'm still not sure if getting a top scout is cheating or just making wise use of my (limited) funds. I mean, the guy's $1m a year... plus eating the existing contract.

And it seems the AI teams have better scouts based on some of the deals I thought were "too good to be true..."

UltimateAverageGuy · 04-28-2018, 10:45 PM

Having a hard time understanding why you just dont play with 100% accuracy if you're going to just create a test league to see how bad your current scout is.

Qeltar · 04-29-2018, 09:30 AM

I'm trying to learn the game and how to achieve a balance. I don't want magical perfect accuracy, and I also don't want a scout who tells me prospects are amazing when everyone else thinks they aren't, which is what seemed to happen with the default one.

Doing some testing I found some interesting variances with different scouts. No matter the scout, clearly there will be differences of opinion, just like in the real world. But the better ones seem to avoid the large errors, which works better for me anyway.

I'm doing a rebuild nearly from scratch with an owner who is both cheap and demanding. I can't afford to spin my wheels with bad data.

stealofhome · 04-30-2018, 04:13 PM

I have I feel like a similar desire for the game to work - you don't want perfect accuracy but don't want to waste time on scouting reports that are objectively wrong. I've been running down the stats-only approach currently but that's when I ran into issues with feeder leagues. The idea is that you turn down your scouting accuracy to rely more on stats. The actual stats are correct but it's up to you to analyze them appropriately which makes for more of a challenge.

04-28-2018, 04:40 PM	#1
Qeltar Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 382	So, about that pricey superb Japanese scout... My current scout is not bad. His ratings are Great / Great / Excellent / Excellent. However, I am noticing significant disparities between what he seems to think a lot of players are worth and what other teams think they are worth. This would be fine, except that many of the guys he really likes seem to be underperforming. It's less than one full season, so I do understand the small sample size issue. But I also wonder if I should upgrade in this area. I just feel like my hands are tied by not getting good enough information. There's a Japanese scout with insanely good ratings. I've heard others talk about him before. Some said he was great, others said he was TOO good and made the game simply too easy. For a rebuilding team, accurate scouting is extremely important, but I don't want someone who is "unrealistically perfect." Any thoughts on this? Should I maybe pick someone who's better but not "Excellent" or "Outstanding" everywhere? BTW my existing scout is half a mill a year for the rest of this year and 3 more. If I fire him, do I pay all of that up front? If so, I am actually fine with that, as I have a bunch of cash on hand right now that I don't have anything to spend on through the end of the season. Thanks. PS He's made three "discoveries" so far that are so horrendous that IRL I would have chastised him for even emailing me about them. I mean, the absolute worst scrubs imagineable, one guy had literally not even one potential rating near average. Last edited by Qeltar; 04-28-2018 at 04:49 PM.

04-28-2018, 06:46 PM	#2
Qeltar Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 382	I just did a test where I hired the guy and then had him rescout my entire organization. I don't know if I want to get this "Mr. Perfect" but boy is it clear that my existing scout needs to go. I mean, most of my top draft picks have languished in their first year and this rescout tells me why. Also a number of the "great trades" I did this year were illusions based on bad scouting. I'm still not sure if getting a top scout is cheating or just making wise use of my (limited) funds. I mean, the guy's $1m a year... plus eating the existing contract. And it seems the AI teams have better scouts based on some of the deals I thought were "too good to be true..." Last edited by Qeltar; 04-28-2018 at 06:47 PM.

04-29-2018, 09:30 AM	#4
Qeltar Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 382	I'm trying to learn the game and how to achieve a balance. I don't want magical perfect accuracy, and I also don't want a scout who tells me prospects are amazing when everyone else thinks they aren't, which is what seemed to happen with the default one. Doing some testing I found some interesting variances with different scouts. No matter the scout, clearly there will be differences of opinion, just like in the real world. But the better ones seem to avoid the large errors, which works better for me anyway. I'm doing a rebuild nearly from scratch with an owner who is both cheap and demanding. I can't afford to spin my wheels with bad data. Last edited by Qeltar; 04-29-2018 at 09:58 AM.

04-28-2018, 10:45 PM	#3
UltimateAverageGuy All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 588	Having a hard time understanding why you just dont play with 100% accuracy if you're going to just create a test league to see how bad your current scout is.

04-30-2018, 04:13 PM	#5
stealofhome Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,282	I have I feel like a similar desire for the game to work - you don't want perfect accuracy but don't want to waste time on scouting reports that are objectively wrong. I've been running down the stats-only approach currently but that's when I ran into issues with feeder leagues. The idea is that you turn down your scouting accuracy to rely more on stats. The actual stats are correct but it's up to you to analyze them appropriately which makes for more of a challenge.