Card Error Thread

[Lukas Berger]

Hey guys!

Wanted to have a place to collect info on cards with errors.

Not so much graphical errors at this point, but mostly things like guys who throw too fast or not fast enough (especially for historical players), who were really gb pitchers but aren't listed as such by the game, who throw submarine in-game when they really didn't, or with other weird ratings generated by the algorithm that don't match their real-life abilities (Piazza having a great catcher rating f.e.).

What this isn't for is just for general disagreement with a player's overall rating or even individual ratings, more for stuff that's objectively or just obviously wrong.

Thanks!

[Clavette]

Rickey henderson cards errors. I'm looking at his peak card with an outfield error rating of 34. Looking at his fielding stats lifetime he had 2 or 3 seasons of 10+ errors. Seems off

[Barmy Fungy-Phipps]

Just ran across Brett Butler with a bunt for hit rating that is essentially non-existent. If the automated ratings messed it up for him, I'm guessing it is wildly off for a lot of players.

I don't know who tracks bunt base hits anymore, but this article from Beyond the Boxscore covers ground for several of the bigger names that ought to be checked:
https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/20...ases-empty-mlb

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Barmy Fungy-Phipps

Just ran across Brett Butler with a bunt for hit rating that is essentially non-existent. If the automated ratings messed it up for him, I'm guessing it is wildly off for a lot of players.

I don't know who tracks bunt base hits anymore, but this article from Beyond the Boxscore covers ground for several of the bigger names that ought to be checked:
https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/20...ases-empty-mlb

Great article! Will take a look at this.

Love your username btw

[NYY #23]

I ran across an auction for 2002 Johnny Damon and had to laugh at his 101 outfield arm rating. That should probably be tuned down a lot.

[scott1964]

Two card with Bob Welch and two different ratings. Trevor Williams is two for two.

[Abnerdoubleday]

While doing a league player search, I noticed that the same pitcher (and same card), will have different arm slots. For instance, in my current league, there are four Jose Alvarados. One has an over the top slot, two have normal 3//4 slots, and one is a submariner. How does that happen? Does it matter?

[imdosk]

http://imgdb.kr/eBAf

rating is different from card image.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Abnerdoubleday

While doing a league player search, I noticed that the same pitcher (and same card), will have different arm slots. For instance, in my current league, there are four Jose Alvarados. One has an over the top slot, two have normal 3//4 slots, and one is a submariner. How does that happen? Does it matter?

That shouldn't happen. No idea what might be going on there offhand. We'll have to keep an eye out for that.

[Dark Horse]

Gary Sanchez is really overrated as a catcher. He has a reputation of being a bad catcher; especially when it comes to blocking the plate and not giving up passed balls and wild pitches. But his Catcher Ability is 50 (on the 20 to 80 scale) and his Catcher position rating is 65; which is better than Salvador Perez (catcher ability 55, position rating 60) who has won five Gold Gloves in the last five yeas.

So Salvador Perez may be underrated, too.

[jda]

Not a bug so much as general housekeeping. The following players are missing data in the "Year" field of the Collection/Full List screen:

Mike Piazza Rookie Sensation
Johnny Damon All-Star
Dan Quisenberry All-Star
Ted Abernathy Record-Breaker
Carl Mays Unsung Heroes
Ace Adams Record-Breaker

[zrog2000]

Originally Posted by Dark Horse

Gary Sanchez is really overrated as a catcher. He has a reputation of being a bad catcher; especially when it comes to blocking the plate and not giving up passed balls and wild pitches. But his Catcher Ability is 50 (on the 20 to 80 scale) and his Catcher position rating is 65; which is better than Salvador Perez (catcher ability 55, position rating 60) who has won five Gold Gloves in the last five yeas.

So Salvador Perez may be underrated, too.

Sanchez makes up for a lot with his arm, but I agree that a 50 is too high for him. I also agree that Perez is underrated defensively, however my card has him at 67 position, 58 for ability and 68 for arm.

[Janks]

Mark Fidrych still has two cards (Rookie-74 & One Hit Wonder-69) for 1976 with different pitching ratings.

[pstrickert]

Originally Posted by zrog2000

Sanchez makes up for a lot with his arm, but I agree that a 50 is too high for him. I also agree that Perez is underrated defensively, however my card has him at 67 position, 58 for ability and 68 for arm.

I raised this issue during beta. Sanchez is overrated. In 2018, he had 18 passed balls and threw out only 30% of base stealers. By contrast, Perez had 4 passed balls, committed no errors, and threw out 48% of base stealers. Perez's zone rating was +7 (highest in the league), while Sanchez was -6 (second-lowest in the league). Yet Sanchez is rated 10 points higher defensively.

[Dark Horse]

Originally Posted by zrog2000

Sanchez makes up for a lot with his arm, but I agree that a 50 is too high for him. I also agree that Perez is underrated defensively, however my card has him at 67 position, 58 for ability and 68 for arm.

i am using the 20-80 rating scale. That's the difference in the ratings for Perez.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by pstrickert

I raised this issue during beta. Sanchez is overrated. In 2018, he had 18 passed balls and threw out only 30% of base stealers. By contrast, Perez had 4 passed balls, committed no errors, and threw out 48% of base stealers. Perez's zone rating was +7 (highest in the league), while Sanchez was -6 (second-lowest in the league). Yet Sanchez is rated 10 points higher defensively.

Catcher ability is about more than just passed balls though

That being said, I'd already dropped Sanchez a bit in the regular roster set, but that must've been after we created the card so the card did not reflect that. Fixed that now. Also boosted Perez a bit.

[pstrickert]

Thanks, Lukas. BTW, here's the latest on Sanchez as a catcher -- or not.

https://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf...es_future.html

[zrog2000]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Catcher ability is about more than just passed balls though

That being said, I'd already dropped Sanchez a bit in the regular roster set, but that must've been after we created the card so the card did not reflect that. Fixed that now. Also boosted Perez a bit.

When will the boosted Perez show up? I still see his card as the same (and am trying to make agonizing catching decisions lol).

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by zrog2000

When will the boosted Perez show up? I still see his card as the same (and am trying to make agonizing catching decisions lol).

Not until whenever we update the cards. Early next week I guess.

[Westheim]

There are two Daniel Murphy cards, a 2018 live one with the Cubs and a 2016 All-Star card where his name is Dan T. Murphy … eh... why the different name? Nobody has ever called him Dan Murphy?