Why does 100 Tom Seaver suck? Please fix this.

Walter Alston · 01-15-2019, 09:54 PM

Why does a pitcher with a so-called perfect rating, Tom Seaver, fail to perform like a star?

10 starts into the season, he's 3-5 with a 5.57 ERA. Worst ERA on my staff. My only other 100 rated player, Jacob DeGrom, is 6-2 with a 1.67 ERA.

Based on his ratings (Stuff 107, Movement 62, Control 74), Seaver should be performing much better.

This is a bug. Please fix it.

Walter Alston · 01-15-2019, 10:20 PM

Welp, he just lost again. Now he's 3-6 with a 5.53 ERA.

CrazyWR · 01-16-2019, 08:45 AM

this...this is a joke right?

Walter Alston · 01-16-2019, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyWR

this...this is a joke right?

why would you think that?

Walter Alston · 01-16-2019, 11:14 AM

By the way, "Perfect" Seaver is now 3-7 with a 5.91 ERA. If anything's a joke, it's that. It's a serious flaw in the game.

atabakin · 01-16-2019, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter Alston

By the way, "Perfect" Seaver is now 3-7 with a 5.91 ERA. If anything's a joke, it's that. It's a serious flaw in the game.

The serious flaw is in you only looking at the overall rating and not realizing that movement in the low 60s won't cut it.

Walter Alston · 01-16-2019, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by atabakin

The serious flaw is in you only looking at the overall rating and not realizing that movement in the low 60s won't cut it.

Your comment is seriously flawed. I've also got Luis Severino and Jon Matlack in my rotation. Both have movement ratings lower than Seaver's. Both are outperforming him, despite significantly lower overall ratings. Severino is a 93, and Matlack is an 86.

max venerabel · 01-16-2019, 12:04 PM

I dunno I got 64 K PP for him, so I think he performed pretty well for me!!

atabakin · 01-16-2019, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter Alston

Your comment is seriously flawed. I've also got Luis Severino and Jon Matlack in my rotation. Both have movement ratings lower than Seaver's. Both are outperforming him, despite significantly lower overall ratings. Severino is a 93, and Matlack is an 86.

Okay, then it's a random variance thing. It happens. Tough luck.

Orcin · 01-16-2019, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter Alston

By the way, "Perfect" Seaver is now 3-7 with a 5.91 ERA. If anything's a joke, it's that. It's a serious flaw in the game.

Posting here after every bad game won't help.

Walter Alston · 01-16-2019, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by atabakin

Okay, then it's a random variance thing. It happens. Tough luck.

The heck does this even mean, a random variance thing? You think I should just shut up and accept that "Perfect" Seaver sucks in Perfect Team? If so, I heartily disagree.

By the way, Orcin, he's now 3-8 with a 5.78 ERA.

Thalion · 01-16-2019, 12:47 PM

You're in for a rough ride if you think every card is going to perform the way you think it should.

Walter Alston · 01-16-2019, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Thalion

You're in for a rough ride if you think every card is going to perform the way you think it should.

So "shut up and accept it" is your advice, too?

atabakin · 01-16-2019, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter Alston

So "shut up and accept it" is your advice, too?

No, you're the only one who doesn't have perfect rated players putting up 15 WAR. It's certainly a glitch.

CrazyWR · 01-16-2019, 12:59 PM

I think perhaps you should try to figure out why he isn't performing well rather than saying it is a bug. If you are familiar with the game of baseball, you would understand that players are not robots, they do not perform the same every season, they have ups and downs, and when they face better competition, like in the playoffs or an all-star game, performance typically is not as good.

You have yet to post any MEANINGFUL stats here so we can tell you what is holding Tom back, his W-L record is completely irrelevant and his ERA is dependent on a number of factors. Take a screenshot of his pitching stats and perhaps someone can explain WHY Tom isn't dominating. Feel free to include screenshots of your other rotation member's stats as well if you like so we can compare.

However, if all you want to do is complain, feel free to carry on. We are all waiting anxiously to see if you can pull off a 20 loss season with a perfect pitcher.

Walter Alston · 01-16-2019, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyWR

You have yet to post any MEANINGFUL stats here so we can tell you what is holding Tom back, his W-L record is completely irrelevant and his ERA is dependent on a number of factors. Take a screenshot of his pitching stats and perhaps someone can explain WHY Tom isn't dominating. Feel free to include screenshots of your other rotation member's stats as well if you like so we can compare.

See attached screenshot.

Socali · 01-16-2019, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by max venerabel

I dunno I got 64 K PP for him, so I think he performed pretty well for me!!

THIS post made opening this thread so worth it...

.

BTW the OP doesn't mention what level this Seaver is pitching in. I'm guessing if he is in Perfect he wouldn't be posting this complaint but if he is in Bronze then you might have a beef...but even then hang in there players regularly under-perform. I haven't seen too many threads, if any, of those complaining that they have players outperforming their real life numbers!!! I'd be surprised if everyone hasn't experienced this to some degree. For the most part it balances out but maybe it hasn't for you......................yet.

Orcin · 01-16-2019, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Socali

BTW the OP doesn't mention what level this Seaver is pitching in.

He is in Gold. It says so on the stats that he posted. (It says "double A" which equates to gold.)

Matt Arnold · 01-16-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter Alston

See attached screenshot.

.357 BABIP means he's had bad luck with the defense behind him. The 4.42 FIP shows that he shouldn't be as bad as he has been (although even that is high for someone of his talent).

HR and BB are too high probably for what he should be. But again, 85 IP is hardly a big sample size, just a little over 1/3 of a season. Maybe he's just gotten unlucky and faced all the tough teams. But still only a couple good starts away from being back to where he should be (the BABIP will take longer to stabilize, though).

Socali · 01-16-2019, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

He is in Gold. It says so on the stats that he posted. (It says "double A" which equates to gold.)

It helps to read the whole thread doesn't it, Orcin? Thanks for the un-needed primer on Double A=Gold, it certainly removed any doubt I had.

01-15-2019, 09:54 PM	#1
Walter Alston Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 66	Why does 100 Tom Seaver suck? Please fix this. Why does a pitcher with a so-called perfect rating, Tom Seaver, fail to perform like a star? 10 starts into the season, he's 3-5 with a 5.57 ERA. Worst ERA on my staff. My only other 100 rated player, Jacob DeGrom, is 6-2 with a 1.67 ERA. Based on his ratings (Stuff 107, Movement 62, Control 74), Seaver should be performing much better. This is a bug. Please fix it.

01-15-2019, 10:20 PM	#2
Walter Alston Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 66	Welp, he just lost again. Now he's 3-6 with a 5.53 ERA.

01-16-2019, 08:45 AM	#3
CrazyWR All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 549	this...this is a joke right?

01-16-2019, 11:14 AM	#5
Walter Alston Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 66	By the way, "Perfect" Seaver is now 3-7 with a 5.91 ERA. If anything's a joke, it's that. It's a serious flaw in the game.

01-16-2019, 12:04 PM	#8
max venerabel Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 103	I dunno I got 64 K PP for him, so I think he performed pretty well for me!!

01-16-2019, 12:47 PM	#12
Thalion Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 413	You're in for a rough ride if you think every card is going to perform the way you think it should.

01-16-2019, 12:59 PM	#15
CrazyWR All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 549	I think perhaps you should try to figure out why he isn't performing well rather than saying it is a bug. If you are familiar with the game of baseball, you would understand that players are not robots, they do not perform the same every season, they have ups and downs, and when they face better competition, like in the playoffs or an all-star game, performance typically is not as good. You have yet to post any MEANINGFUL stats here so we can tell you what is holding Tom back, his W-L record is completely irrelevant and his ERA is dependent on a number of factors. Take a screenshot of his pitching stats and perhaps someone can explain WHY Tom isn't dominating. Feel free to include screenshots of your other rotation member's stats as well if you like so we can compare. However, if all you want to do is complain, feel free to carry on. We are all waiting anxiously to see if you can pull off a 20 loss season with a perfect pitcher.