What to Do With Poor Player, High Salary

BKL · 03-17-2019, 08:25 PM

I have a player with three years left at $30 million each year. I tried to release him before the start of the new season since he's eating into my budget, hoping that I would just eat all the salary in one year. But instead I get a message saying that the remaining salary will be spread over the life of the contract - so I suppose this will continue to reduce my budget for the 3 years left. Is that correct?

Any suggestions as to how to get rid of him? He's a veteran, veto's demotion, and no other team wants him.

IanIachimoe · 03-17-2019, 08:33 PM

same boat, I'm riding it out.

you could try trading & eating part of his salary. didn't work for me.

jimmysthebestcop · 03-17-2019, 08:43 PM

Most likely have to eat part of his salary and might even need to include a prospect. Or several depending on how much money you want to eat.

BirdWatcher · 03-18-2019, 09:28 AM

Another approach that I have used is to trade him for another high priced, low value veteran, perhaps even one who currently has a higher yearly salary but for fewer years, if my budget can sustain a short-term hurt for a long-term gain.

Plus sometimes in the process you can find a pretty worthless veteran whose worthlessness at least fits a bit better on your team (possibly because of some character trait but more likely because of one particular skill that isn't as diminished that can be minimally useful on the bench (say, an aging power hitter who can't field anymore and has low contact skills, but will still draw some walks and more importantly occasionally connect for a homerun off the bench.)) Sometimes the lesser of two evils isn't the worst short-term plan.

Westheim · 03-18-2019, 09:35 AM

(writes some numbers on a scrap of paper) You should give Big Tony a call. He will take care of it.

Also, eat the paper afterwards.

NoOne · 03-19-2019, 05:01 AM

i think tony was just gunned down in NY this weekend wasn't he?

gambino, tony, whatever...

jimmysthebestcop · 03-19-2019, 07:44 PM

Basically Crusader Kings 2 marries OOTP. I would add some owners to the "plot" list

the54effect · 03-20-2019, 10:09 AM

Ahh Jacoby Ellsbury syndrome!

Basically your only option to clear him from the books is to bundle him with an affordable superstar for almost nothing- and you still may have to retain some salary. Putting Ellsbury with Judge or Sanchez can get him off the Yankees, although, with the Yankees' budget it wasn't worth it for me. In most of my simulations I kept Ells on for a year and half as a fourth outfielder until his skills eroded to the point that cutting him and bringing a minimum wage young 4th OF type was more productive.

With Ellsbury's contract, uh, the last year was a team opt out with a $0 buyout that I believe functionally spread the burden over an extra year.

panda234 · 03-21-2019, 03:20 PM

AFIK you have to keep a player on the payroll until the season ends so you can manually cancel the option year when you get the message. Otherwise the game assumes you have executed it. Smack me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I've encountered this.

Germaniac · 03-22-2019, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the54effect

Ahh Jacoby Ellsbury syndrome!

Rather the Isiah Caldwell-syndrome ...

Signed him as a FA in my fictional league after he won the 1950 MVP Award - 227.5 mill over 7 years. After the 1951 season I had trouble with my budget and traded him to Tampa Bay and his ratings dropped dramatically after that

Well, not the best trade in history for them

jmount78 · 03-22-2019, 10:48 AM

I was successful in dealing away a bad mulit-year contract by trading for an expiring contact that was substantially higher for that one year. This freed up money for the other team and the overpriced veteran met one of their needs.

03-17-2019, 08:25 PM	#1
BKL All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 929	What to Do With Poor Player, High Salary I have a player with three years left at $30 million each year. I tried to release him before the start of the new season since he's eating into my budget, hoping that I would just eat all the salary in one year. But instead I get a message saying that the remaining salary will be spread over the life of the contract - so I suppose this will continue to reduce my budget for the 3 years left. Is that correct? Any suggestions as to how to get rid of him? He's a veteran, veto's demotion, and no other team wants him.

03-17-2019, 08:33 PM	#2
IanIachimoe All Star Starter Join Date: May 2014 Location: paper st. Posts: 1,052	same boat, I'm riding it out. you could try trading & eating part of his salary. didn't work for me. __________________

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03-20-2019, 10:09 AM	#8
the54effect Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2016 Location: New York Posts: 107	Ahh Jacoby Ellsbury syndrome! Basically your only option to clear him from the books is to bundle him with an affordable superstar for almost nothing- and you still may have to retain some salary. Putting Ellsbury with Judge or Sanchez can get him off the Yankees, although, with the Yankees' budget it wasn't worth it for me. In most of my simulations I kept Ells on for a year and half as a fourth outfielder until his skills eroded to the point that cutting him and bringing a minimum wage young 4th OF type was more productive. With Ellsbury's contract, uh, the last year was a team opt out with a $0 buyout that I believe functionally spread the burden over an extra year. __________________ OOOBL (BAL) 🏆🏆🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩2032-2053 & 2056-present TGS1.0 (WAS)🏆🏆🚩🚩🚩 2021-2035 (league concluded) TGS2.0 (NYY) 🏆🚩🚩 2022-present LTBNL (HOU)🏆🏆🏆🏆🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 2020-2044 (retired) The Dugout (BOS)🏆🚩 2179-present

03-17-2019, 08:43 PM	#3
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,728 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	Most likely have to eat part of his salary and might even need to include a prospect. Or several depending on how much money you want to eat.

03-18-2019, 09:28 AM	#4
BirdWatcher Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 4,263	Another approach that I have used is to trade him for another high priced, low value veteran, perhaps even one who currently has a higher yearly salary but for fewer years, if my budget can sustain a short-term hurt for a long-term gain. Plus sometimes in the process you can find a pretty worthless veteran whose worthlessness at least fits a bit better on your team (possibly because of some character trait but more likely because of one particular skill that isn't as diminished that can be minimally useful on the bench (say, an aging power hitter who can't field anymore and has low contact skills, but will still draw some walks and more importantly occasionally connect for a homerun off the bench.)) Sometimes the lesser of two evils isn't the worst short-term plan.

03-19-2019, 05:01 AM	#6
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,228	i think tony was just gunned down in NY this weekend wasn't he? gambino, tony, whatever...

03-19-2019, 07:44 PM	#7
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,728 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	Basically Crusader Kings 2 marries OOTP. I would add some owners to the "plot" list

03-21-2019, 03:20 PM	#9
panda234 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 291	AFIK you have to keep a player on the payroll until the season ends so you can manually cancel the option year when you get the message. Otherwise the game assumes you have executed it. Smack me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I've encountered this.

03-22-2019, 10:48 AM	#11
jmount78 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 304	I was successful in dealing away a bad mulit-year contract by trading for an expiring contact that was substantially higher for that one year. This freed up money for the other team and the overpriced veteran met one of their needs.