Fictional Players: Who was the best player in your league's history?

The_Offspring187 · 12-07-2020, 04:38 PM

Backstory: The North American Baseball Association was established in 1880. The league is currently in the year 2006. I simmed from 1880 to 1999 then began watching game by game in the year 2000 going forward.

I've had a few legendary players in the league but none can top the beast (ironically he spent most of his career with the Baltimore Beasts/Cannons) known as Gregory Foster. From his legendary splash on the scene with a 54 homer rookie season to his 1970 season which many pundits have clamored to be the greatest offensive season in NABA history, Foster was an absolute monster at the plate.

http://naba.epizy.com/GregoryFoster.html

That is his NABA Player Page. What do you guys think of him?

Just for reference, the next highest person on my all time home run list has 693. Foster is the only guy to ever hit over 700, let alone 800. He was an absolute freak of nature.

Déjà Bru · 12-07-2020, 05:58 PM

That is rather amazing. I was about to inquire as to whether league stats modifiers were tweaked but I believe you answered that with "Just for reference, the next highest person on my all time home run list has 693. Foster is the only guy to ever hit over 700, let alone 800. He was an absolute freak of nature." I am looking forward to my own freaks of nature; outliers.

I do have one question: Do you have league evolution turned on?

Since you asked "Who was the best player in your league's history?", I offer this fellow. Dead Ball Era with absolutely no alterations or chicanery (other than I maneuvered to get the first pick in the Inaugural Draft to get him). This guy has absolutely dominated the league and he is still going strong at age 33/34.

He has won the AL Batting Hero Award (the home plate icons; my MVP for batters only) for each of the eight years the league has been in existence. The computer has chosen him every time! Yes, that's 168 SBs in 1902; he used to be even faster than he is now. OPS of over 1.000 in the 1900s?!?

I don't recall ever having a superstar like this before in any of my leagues.

The_Offspring187 · 12-07-2020, 06:34 PM

That guy is an absolute stud!! Glad you snagged him.

As for my league, league evolution is on as far as pitching and hitting go. But the rest of the settings are off.

If it helps I started the league in OOTP13 so I used 2012 modifiers. I wanted a history that never had a dead ball era and see who a true home run and batting champion would be. This guy has stood out over the rest.

The_Offspring187 · 12-07-2020, 06:37 PM

Foster was a 5th round pick which shocks me. His high school numbers were solid. Either way a ton of GMs looked foolish after that 1962 draft lol.

Bluenoser · 12-07-2020, 07:12 PM

OOTP creates some amazing fictional players every now and then, kind of like real life they are rare, but a joy to observe.

Both those players are amazing, a Power Machine to beat all and a lead off hitter that would make you say "Rickey Who?"

This guy was a scouting discovery out of Cuba and had a spectacular career. 408 wins, 400 CG's, 10 CY's, 21, Yes 21 time All Star.

Leads the league (in 76th season now) in Wins - 408, Games Started - 734, Complete Games - 400, Shutouts - 82, IP's - 6059.0, BB/9 - 1.36.

Only managed to win 1 Championship though.
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Bluenoser · 12-07-2020, 07:18 PM

Best hitter the league has produced, 14 time Frank Robinson (MVP) Award winner, along with multiple other awards, Hank Travis. He was drafted out of high school at age 19 and went straight to the majors.

Leads the league in career OBP - .410, OPS - .971, runs - 2224, total bases - 6269, and walks - 2056
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BaseballNewsNow · 12-07-2020, 07:26 PM

My league's in 2070, so only 50 years in. The first player that comes to mind is Justin Krieger (pictures below). Now I play 60 game seasons, so he has the most WAR of all time in my Tropical League at 47.9 WAR. This is also a VERY hitter dominant league, so a career ERA at 4.11 is exceptional (the best of all time at this is 2.83, a CLOSER.

The_Offspring187 · 12-07-2020, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

OOTP creates some amazing fictional players every now and then, kind of like real life they are rare, but a joy to observe.

Both those players are amazing, a Power Machine to beat all and a lead off hitter that would make you say "Rickey Who?"

This guy was a scouting discovery out of Cuba and had a spectacular career. 408 wins, 400 CG's, 10 CY's, 21, Yes 21 time All Star.

Leads the league (in 76th season now) in Wins - 408, Games Started - 734, Complete Games - 400, Shutouts - 82, IP's - 6059.0, BB/9 - 1.36.

Only managed to win 1 Championship though.

_

400 complete games? Amazing! This guy was definitely a stud pitcher and one of those rare jewels in OOTP.

The_Offspring187 · 12-07-2020, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Best hitter the league has produced, 14 time Frank Robinson (MVP) Award winner, along with multiple other awards, Hank Travis. He was drafted out of high school at age 19 and went straight to the majors.

Leads the league in career OBP - .410, OPS - .971, runs - 2224, total bases - 6269, and walks - 2056
_

Another stud. Loving the 600+ homers and 800+ steals!

The_Offspring187 · 12-07-2020, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaseballNewsNow

My league's in 2070, so only 50 years in. The first player that comes to mind is Justin Krieger (pictures below). Now I play 60 game seasons, so he has the most WAR of all time in my Tropical League at 47.9 WAR. This is also a VERY hitter dominant league, so a career ERA at 4.11 is exceptional (the best of all time at this is 2.83, a CLOSER.

Makes me wonder how "Bad News" Krieger would fare over a 162 game schedule. A 4.2 WAR in a 60 game season is pretty awesome.

BaseballNewsNow · 12-07-2020, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Offspring187

Makes me wonder how "Bad News" Krieger would fare over a 162 game schedule. A 4.2 WAR in a 60 game season is pretty awesome.

He was certainly bad news. That 4.2 WAR can be multiplied by 2.7 to get 11.3 WAR. That’s on the lines of Bob Gibsons 11.2 WAR 1968 in which he had a 1.12 ERA. Yeah, that was a pretty good season!

JasonC23 · 12-07-2020, 10:20 PM

In my longtime White Sox dynasty that I started as a New Standard (MLB) Game in OOTP15 and have imported into every iteration since, the greatest player, by far, is Sean Dodson. Drafted first overall in 2052 by the Charlotte Hornets (a 2037 expansion team), Dodson spent the first 6 years of his career (2053-2058) as a Hornet before signing with my White Sox as a free agent prior to the 2059 season, where he remained a lineup fixture until his retirement 18 years later (2059-2076). In his storied 24-year career, Dodson was a 7-time MVP, 12-time Platinum Stick winner, 20-time All-Star, and 12-time World Series winner (1 with Charlotte, 11 with the White Sox).

I could go on and on about Sean Dodson, but I'll let the following 2 screen shots do most of the talking. I will say that my two favorite things about the screen shots are the ridiculous collection of icons behind his head and the number of times his name appears alongside Ruth, Rose, Cobb, and the rest of the baseball immortals on my league's career batting leaderboard.

The_Offspring187 · 12-07-2020, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonC23

In my longtime White Sox dynasty that I started as a New Standard (MLB) Game in OOTP15 and have imported into every iteration since, the greatest player, by far, is Sean Dodson. Drafted first overall in 2052 by the Charlotte Hornets (a 2037 expansion team), Dodson spent the first 6 years of his career (2053-2058) as a Hornet before signing with my White Sox as a free agent prior to the 2059 season, where he remained a lineup fixture until his retirement 18 years later (2059-2076). In his storied 24-year career, Dodson was a 7-time MVP, 12-time Platinum Stick winner, 20-time All-Star, and 12-time World Series winner (1 with Charlotte, 11 with the White Sox).

I could go on and on about Sean Dodson, but I'll let the following 2 screen shots do most of the talking. I will say that my two favorite things about the screen shots are the ridiculous collection of icons behind his head and the number of times his name appears alongside Ruth, Rose, Cobb, and the rest of the baseball immortals on my league's career batting leaderboard.

Dodson was indeed "Savage". 728 career homers? 500+ stolen bases? Very nice. 4217 career hits?! Impressive. I haven't seen a guy with 4000 career hits in my fictional league. In fact I think the record is around 3500. That's one of the only things my league is lacking in it feels like.

Déjà Bru · 12-08-2020, 12:06 PM

This is a fun thread, a sort of fictional "Hall of Fame"! Two non sequitur observations:

1) Jason referred to "the ridiculous collection of icons behind his head" which made me chuckle but also revisit the ongoing dilemma that I have as to whether to display them all or truncate them like Bluenoser does. So far, the "curtain of bling" effect is in effect for me but I am wondering what mine will look like for some of my older stars, given the modded icons that I use.

2) I also haven't had occasion to look at retired players much in my young league yet. I noticed above that, instead of advancing their age into ridiculous territory, they list only "Age at retirement" on their player profile pages. (Although ages do advance in player lists, I see.) This is a nice touch and I am not sure whether it is something that was changed recently.

Anyway, lots of monsters in this thread! One cannot fully appreciate the magnitude of these numbers as much as the league owners who saw these players develop, dominate, make their incredible marks, and fade away.

Bluenoser · 12-08-2020, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

This is a fun thread, a sort of fictional "Hall of Fame"! Two non sequitur observations:

1) Jason referred to "the ridiculous collection of icons behind his head" which made me chuckle but also revisit the ongoing dilemma that I have as to whether to display them all or truncate them like Bluenoser does. So far, the "curtain of bling" effect is in effect for me but I am wondering what mine will look like for some of my older stars, given the modded icons that I use.

2) I also haven't had occasion to look at retired players much in my young league yet. I noticed above that, instead of advancing their age into ridiculous territory, they list only "Age at retirement" on their player profile pages. (Although ages do advance in player lists, I see.) This is a nice touch and I am not sure whether it is something that was changed recently.

Anyway, lots of monsters in this thread! One cannot fully appreciate the magnitude of these numbers as much as the league owners who saw these players develop, dominate, make their incredible marks, and fade away.

Indeed the ever puzzling "What to do with Award Icons". When starting a new league I leave them at full, mostly because no player has accumulated many yet. Once they start to build up I truncate at 3, and after about 20 seasons I go to 1.

The only change I would like to see is when they are truncated, the number in the red circle that indicates the amount won would only show on mouse hover.

Absolutely agree, fun thread. Really enjoy seeing fictional "Greats of the Game"

Bluenoser · 12-08-2020, 03:08 PM

So just for the fun of it, here's my League History Leaderboards for Regular and Post Season.

Yes, I had a player hit over .400 once in 75 seasons, it was awesome to see. Closest any other player has come was .388

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Déjà Bru · 12-08-2020, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

So just for the fun of it, here's my League History Leaderboards for Regular and Post Season.

Yes, I had a player hit over .400 once in 75 seasons, it was awesome to see. Closest any other player has come was .388

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That's what I was talking about earlier. On standard settings (and presumably without too much league evolution), you had a player hit .409 in 2040? That's great! That is the kind of reasonable variation that I want to see in my MLB fictional league in the future.

Bluenoser · 12-08-2020, 06:27 PM

I'm always impressed with players who amass a lot of hits. Getting 4000 is an incredible feat when you think about it.

You have to average 200 a season for 20 years. That means you also have to stay healthy for 20 seasons - so it's like double jeopardy

(Of course that's true of any record being chased

)

My best is Hoerst with 3905, and looking through current hitters who might have a shot, well, there are none. I have 1 active player with 3663, but he's 43 years old. Next closest active doesn't even have 2500 yet, and he's in his 30's already.

Scarey to think what Schmit could do had he started in the bigs at age 19. Maybe 5000?

This is one of the many things I love about fictional, there are no records, you don't know what numbers, or who you're chasing. You can compare your league numbers to real baseball, or you can set your own standards of excellence.

Déjà Bru · 12-09-2020, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluenoser

this is one of the many things i love about fictional, there are no records, you don't know what numbers, or who you're chasing. You can compare your league numbers to real baseball, or you can set your own standards of excellence.

+1

The_Offspring187 · 12-11-2020, 03:32 PM

Wayne Andersen is who I named my Cy Young Award after in my fictional league.

Here is his player page. (I have only been uploading individual player pages to my epizy so far, eventually I will upload the entire league there).

http://naba.epizy.com/wayneandersen.html

Just as a reference, 329 is the all time record for wins in my league. No Cy Youngs here unfortunately.

12-07-2020, 04:38 PM	#1
The_Offspring187 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 482	Fictional Players: Who was the best player in your league's history? Backstory: The North American Baseball Association was established in 1880. The league is currently in the year 2006. I simmed from 1880 to 1999 then began watching game by game in the year 2000 going forward. I've had a few legendary players in the league but none can top the beast (ironically he spent most of his career with the Baltimore Beasts/Cannons) known as Gregory Foster. From his legendary splash on the scene with a 54 homer rookie season to his 1970 season which many pundits have clamored to be the greatest offensive season in NABA history, Foster was an absolute monster at the plate. http://naba.epizy.com/GregoryFoster.html That is his NABA Player Page. What do you guys think of him? Just for reference, the next highest person on my all time home run list has 693. Foster is the only guy to ever hit over 700, let alone 800. He was an absolute freak of nature.

12-07-2020, 05:58 PM	#2
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,738	That is rather amazing. I was about to inquire as to whether league stats modifiers were tweaked but I believe you answered that with "Just for reference, the next highest person on my all time home run list has 693. Foster is the only guy to ever hit over 700, let alone 800. He was an absolute freak of nature." I am looking forward to my own freaks of nature; outliers. I do have one question: Do you have league evolution turned on? Since you asked "Who was the best player in your league's history?", I offer this fellow. Dead Ball Era with absolutely no alterations or chicanery (other than I maneuvered to get the first pick in the Inaugural Draft to get him). This guy has absolutely dominated the league and he is still going strong at age 33/34. He has won the AL Batting Hero Award (the home plate icons; my MVP for batters only) for each of the eight years the league has been in existence. The computer has chosen him every time! Yes, that's 168 SBs in 1902; he used to be even faster than he is now. OPS of over 1.000 in the 1900s?!? I don't recall ever having a superstar like this before in any of my leagues. Attached Images __________________ - Bru Last edited by Déjà Bru; 12-07-2020 at 06:03 PM.

12-07-2020, 07:12 PM	#5
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,195	OOTP creates some amazing fictional players every now and then, kind of like real life they are rare, but a joy to observe. Both those players are amazing, a Power Machine to beat all and a lead off hitter that would make you say "Rickey Who?" This guy was a scouting discovery out of Cuba and had a spectacular career. 408 wins, 400 CG's, 10 CY's, 21, Yes 21 time All Star. Leads the league (in 76th season now) in Wins - 408, Games Started - 734, Complete Games - 400, Shutouts - 82, IP's - 6059.0, BB/9 - 1.36. Only managed to win 1 Championship though. _ Attached Images

12-07-2020, 07:18 PM	#6
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,195	Best hitter the league has produced, 14 time Frank Robinson (MVP) Award winner, along with multiple other awards, Hank Travis. He was drafted out of high school at age 19 and went straight to the majors. Leads the league in career OBP - .410, OPS - .971, runs - 2224, total bases - 6269, and walks - 2056 _ Attached Images

12-07-2020, 07:26 PM	#7
BaseballNewsNow Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: In front of my computer, playing OOTP Baseball Posts: 144	My league's in 2070, so only 50 years in. The first player that comes to mind is Justin Krieger (pictures below). Now I play 60 game seasons, so he has the most WAR of all time in my Tropical League at 47.9 WAR. This is also a VERY hitter dominant league, so a career ERA at 4.11 is exceptional (the best of all time at this is 2.83, a CLOSER. Attached Images __________________ “Joy comes in the morning” Last edited by BaseballNewsNow; 12-07-2020 at 07:29 PM.

12-07-2020, 06:34 PM	#3
The_Offspring187 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 482	That guy is an absolute stud!! Glad you snagged him. As for my league, league evolution is on as far as pitching and hitting go. But the rest of the settings are off. If it helps I started the league in OOTP13 so I used 2012 modifiers. I wanted a history that never had a dead ball era and see who a true home run and batting champion would be. This guy has stood out over the rest.

12-07-2020, 06:37 PM	#4
The_Offspring187 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 482	Foster was a 5th round pick which shocks me. His high school numbers were solid. Either way a ton of GMs looked foolish after that 1962 draft lol.

12-07-2020, 10:20 PM	#12
JasonC23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Huntley, IL Posts: 898	May I Present...Sean Dodson In my longtime White Sox dynasty that I started as a New Standard (MLB) Game in OOTP15 and have imported into every iteration since, the greatest player, by far, is Sean Dodson. Drafted first overall in 2052 by the Charlotte Hornets (a 2037 expansion team), Dodson spent the first 6 years of his career (2053-2058) as a Hornet before signing with my White Sox as a free agent prior to the 2059 season, where he remained a lineup fixture until his retirement 18 years later (2059-2076). In his storied 24-year career, Dodson was a 7-time MVP, 12-time Platinum Stick winner, 20-time All-Star, and 12-time World Series winner (1 with Charlotte, 11 with the White Sox). I could go on and on about Sean Dodson, but I'll let the following 2 screen shots do most of the talking. I will say that my two favorite things about the screen shots are the ridiculous collection of icons behind his head and the number of times his name appears alongside Ruth, Rose, Cobb, and the rest of the baseball immortals on my league's career batting leaderboard. Attached Images

12-08-2020, 12:06 PM	#14
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,738	This is a fun thread, a sort of fictional "Hall of Fame"! Two non sequitur observations: 1) Jason referred to "the ridiculous collection of icons behind his head" which made me chuckle but also revisit the ongoing dilemma that I have as to whether to display them all or truncate them like Bluenoser does. So far, the "curtain of bling" effect is in effect for me but I am wondering what mine will look like for some of my older stars, given the modded icons that I use. 2) I also haven't had occasion to look at retired players much in my young league yet. I noticed above that, instead of advancing their age into ridiculous territory, they list only "Age at retirement" on their player profile pages. (Although ages do advance in player lists, I see.) This is a nice touch and I am not sure whether it is something that was changed recently. Anyway, lots of monsters in this thread! One cannot fully appreciate the magnitude of these numbers as much as the league owners who saw these players develop, dominate, make their incredible marks, and fade away. __________________ - Bru

12-08-2020, 03:08 PM	#16
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,195	So just for the fun of it, here's my League History Leaderboards for Regular and Post Season. Yes, I had a player hit over .400 once in 75 seasons, it was awesome to see. Closest any other player has come was .388 _ Attached Images

12-08-2020, 06:27 PM	#18
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,195	I'm always impressed with players who amass a lot of hits. Getting 4000 is an incredible feat when you think about it. You have to average 200 a season for 20 years. That means you also have to stay healthy for 20 seasons - so it's like double jeopardy (Of course that's true of any record being chased ) My best is Hoerst with 3905, and looking through current hitters who might have a shot, well, there are none. I have 1 active player with 3663, but he's 43 years old. Next closest active doesn't even have 2500 yet, and he's in his 30's already. Scarey to think what Schmit could do had he started in the bigs at age 19. Maybe 5000? This is one of the many things I love about fictional, there are no records, you don't know what numbers, or who you're chasing. You can compare your league numbers to real baseball, or you can set your own standards of excellence. Last edited by Bluenoser; 12-08-2020 at 06:37 PM.

12-11-2020, 03:32 PM	#20
The_Offspring187 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 482	Wayne Andersen is who I named my Cy Young Award after in my fictional league. Here is his player page. (I have only been uploading individual player pages to my epizy so far, eventually I will upload the entire league there). http://naba.epizy.com/wayneandersen.html Just as a reference, 329 is the all time record for wins in my league. No Cy Youngs here unfortunately.