Noodles Hahn

[mcilkaer8k]

I pulled Hahn early on in PT23 and he's been in my rotation ever since. However, I've noticed that he's been struggling since I moved up to silver. He had 2 seasons with an ERA over 4, and only one season where it was below 3. Do I keep him in my rotation or pen?

His current ERA is 5.16 with a7-7 record in 45.1 innings pitched
WHIP for the past 3 seasons in silver (including current season): 1.23, 1.23, 1.21

[HondoLane]

Originally Posted by mcilkaer8k

I pulled Hahn early on in PT23 and he's been in my rotation ever since. However, I've noticed that he's been struggling since I moved up to silver. He had 2 seasons with an ERA over 4, and only one season where it was below 3. Do I keep him in my rotation or pen?

His current ERA is 5.16 with a7-7 record in 45.1 innings pitched
WHIP for the past 3 seasons in silver (including current season): 1.23, 1.23, 1.21

What is his FIP over all his seasons? (per season and career).

That's your best indicator as to whether he's worth keeping in the rotation. Compare his FIP to your other starters.

[mcilkaer8k]

Starts in the 2's and then climbs up to over 4.5
Last 2 seasons are 4.12 and 4.68

[HondoLane]

Originally Posted by mcilkaer8k

Starts in the 2's and then climbs up to over 4.5
Last 2 seasons are 4.12 and 4.68

4.12 and 4.68 aren't good, but not necessarily terrible - depends on whether its from a change in levels and that's the new baseline or its just the season to season swing. Because there is definitely swing. My Mort Cooper has a range from 3.43 FIP (best) to 4.43 FIP (worst) with a career FIP of 3.58 over 7 seasons.

Checking the FIP is also the best way to judge relievers over several seasons. They'll have high ERA's some seasons but you can see by their FIP they are just getting bad luck - or vice versa, low ERA's but high FIP.

Along with FIP, the HR rate is the next thing to look at because that can make the FIP either unsustainably low or unsustainably high.

I'd also add that you need a 3-4 season sample to get a good idea.

[mcilkaer8k]

This is my 3rd or 4th straight season in silver

[HondoLane]

Originally Posted by mcilkaer8k

This is my 3rd or 4th straight season in silver

That's generally helpful for these things. If he's had an under 3 FIP in previous silver seasons, I'd definitely ride it out with him.

[mcilkaer8k]

His first season in silver was over 3 unfortunately

[HondoLane]

Originally Posted by mcilkaer8k

His first season in silver was over 3 unfortunately

I consider under 4 to be solid, under 3.5 to be fantastic - but I've only been in Gold/Diamond since the third week of the season, so maybe it's a little different in the lower levels.

[Fabtron7]

Originally Posted by mcilkaer8k

I pulled Hahn early on in PT23 and he's been in my rotation ever since. However, I've noticed that he's been struggling since I moved up to silver. He had 2 seasons with an ERA over 4, and only one season where it was below 3. Do I keep him in my rotation or pen?

His current ERA is 5.16 with a7-7 record in 45.1 innings pitched
WHIP for the past 3 seasons in silver (including current season): 1.23, 1.23, 1.21

Who is your catcher and how are you adjusting his sliders?

[mcilkaer8k]

I believe my everyday catcher is Crandall. I haven’t touched any sliders

[Fabtron7]

Originally Posted by mcilkaer8k

I believe my everyday catcher is Crandall. I haven’t touched any sliders

Any sliders at all, or Noodle's individual sliders?

[Fabtron7]

Also if you come find me on discord we can get you rolling a lot faster.

[mcilkaer8k]

I haven’t touched any of my sliders

[Fabtron7]

I'd highly reccomend you check out Alex's video on sliders (and all his other ones)

https://youtu.be/LFiCmyDZKlw