Percentage of Talent from stats

Félicette · 11-13-2022, 08:58 AM

Hi everyone !

I tend to let the percentage of talent from stats at the default value (40), but after reading a comment on this thread saying that changing this value can affect the AI rosters managing decisions, I was wondering how you guys deal with this feature in your saves.

tomkmb · 11-13-2022, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Félicette

Hi everyone !

I tend to let the percentage of talent from stats at the default value (40), but after reading a comment on this thread saying that changing this value can affect the AI rosters managing decisions, I was wondering how you guys deal with this feature in your saves.

I'd be interested to know from Jeff or anyone else why that would affect AI roster management choices

Félicette · 11-13-2022, 12:23 PM

After reading the thread I linked and my speculations, my guess would be that the AI would tend to more cautious regarding which players to put on waivers because of a bad season.

For example in my current save the Habs just waived Suzuki after a poor season from him regarding his stats (he was badly injured most of last season and didn't really produce). But still, he does have solid attributes and a nice potential, and should not be a candidate for waivers. But his stars rating took a hit because of one terrible season. It's pure speculation, I would also be curious about what the devs think about this and if that makes sense

Savoie45 · 11-13-2022, 01:24 PM

I don't typically see many top stars on waivers. Most of the players I see on waivers are grinders, 4th liners.

KevT90 · 11-13-2022, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Félicette

[...] For example in my current save the Habs just waived Suzuki after a poor season [...]

Ouch !

Savoie45 · 11-13-2022, 03:36 PM

I think stars like Suzuki being waived are anomalies from my play throughs, as I typically build my teams off waivers, free agency, and the draft. Most of the players I see as I said before are third and fourth liners and backup goalies. Most of the star players I see in free agency are between 29-35. Basically, during years their productivity is dropping. It's really unrealistic to expect no star players to end up on waivers or in free agency at some point.

JeffR · 11-14-2022, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tomkmb

I'd be interested to know from Jeff or anyone else why that would affect AI roster management choices

It'll change them so the AI is making decisions based almost enitrely on the player ratings and not their recent stats. Whether that results in better or worse roster moves is a matter of opinion - Smetana's the guy doing the NHL ratings, so naturally he leans towards the "ratings-only is better" side.

Félicette · 11-14-2022, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

It'll change them so the AI is making decisions based almost enitrely on the player ratings and not their recent stats. Whether that results in better or worse roster moves is a matter of opinion - Smetana's the guy doing the NHL ratings, so naturally he leans towards the "ratings-only is better" side.

Thanks for the input, good to know !

belial1134 · 11-18-2022, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Savoie45

I don't typically see many top stars on waivers. Most of the players I see on waivers are grinders, 4th liners.

Before the start of my current season, a 4 star goalie was waived. He has 1 year left on a contract that is 4.8 million so it's likely no team had the cap space and it looked like the team that waived him was over the cap to begin with, so they had no choice.

Details here if you want to see more info

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/....php?p=4951147

Savoie45 · 11-18-2022, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by belial1134

Before the start of my current season, a 4 star goalie was waived. He has 1 year left on a contract that is 4.8 million so it's likely no team had the cap space and it looked like the team that waived him was over the cap to begin with, so they had no choice.

Details here if you want to see more info

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/....php?p=4951147

I said I don't see many. From my observations is the waivers are pretty much the same players each play through. At least I see a lot of the same players with each play through, so at the very least the game is consistent.

11-13-2022, 08:58 AM	#1
Félicette Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: France Posts: 166	Percentage of Talent from stats Hi everyone ! I tend to let the percentage of talent from stats at the default value (40), but after reading a comment on this thread saying that changing this value can affect the AI rosters managing decisions, I was wondering how you guys deal with this feature in your saves.

11-13-2022, 12:23 PM	#3
Félicette Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: France Posts: 166	After reading the thread I linked and my speculations, my guess would be that the AI would tend to more cautious regarding which players to put on waivers because of a bad season. For example in my current save the Habs just waived Suzuki after a poor season from him regarding his stats (he was badly injured most of last season and didn't really produce). But still, he does have solid attributes and a nice potential, and should not be a candidate for waivers. But his stars rating took a hit because of one terrible season. It's pure speculation, I would also be curious about what the devs think about this and if that makes sense

11-13-2022, 01:24 PM	#4
Savoie45 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Oregon Posts: 678	I don't typically see many top stars on waivers. Most of the players I see on waivers are grinders, 4th liners.

11-13-2022, 03:36 PM	#6
Savoie45 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Oregon Posts: 678	I think stars like Suzuki being waived are anomalies from my play throughs, as I typically build my teams off waivers, free agency, and the draft. Most of the players I see as I said before are third and fourth liners and backup goalies. Most of the star players I see in free agency are between 29-35. Basically, during years their productivity is dropping. It's really unrealistic to expect no star players to end up on waivers or in free agency at some point.