Is Random broken??

Reed · 07-10-2024, 07:50 AM

Started a historic game in 1895 and converted to random league with debut 1896-1900. Imported 20 rounds rookie draft to get all players that played 1896-1900 into league. Nap Lajoi, Honus Wagner, Cy Young etc. Their real stats showed their 1901-xxxx stats as expected.
The following spring I changed the debut years to 1901-2000.
This is when the problem shows up. Players that played late 1900 into the 2000s are only showing their real stats up to 2000 when they actually played until 2006, 2008, etc.. I played out 20 seasons and all players that played into 2000+ retired on their IRL year 2000 instead of playing until they did in their real life age.
So playing 1901-2000 the game was acting as though 2000 was end of stats/retirement age.
RAH and missed seasons as in real life are on.
I think David Watts is having the same issue and he starts his game completely differently than me. He may want to add something.

David Watts · 07-10-2024, 09:23 AM

I can confirm what Reed is reporting. Due to the fielding ratings issue involving modern day players, I figured the best way to play random debut would be to eliminate the modern players altogether and use retire/miss seasons according to history, turning off development and going 100% recalc. Set up a random with 1901 as the minimum and 2000 as the maximum. I assumed this would give me players ranging from the years 1901-2000 and exclude guys like Judge, Betts, Trout etc. It does just that. Problem is, any and all players will retire the minute they reach their real life 2000 season. So Andy Petitte will come in at age 23 and retire at age 27. The maximum is just that, the maximum.

I set another league to use 1901-2022. Using this method, all active modern day players retire when they reach the random debut season coinciding with the their 2022 season. This is when retire according to history is turned on.

I assumed the maximum setting worked in a way that prevented players from entering the league if they made their MLB debut later than the year set as the maximum. I also assumed that any player that debuted prior to the maximum year would have access to their entire career and would retire according to history based on their actual retirement year, not the year set as the maximum.

07-10-2024, 07:50 AM	#1
Reed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,339	Is Random broken?? Started a historic game in 1895 and converted to random league with debut 1896-1900. Imported 20 rounds rookie draft to get all players that played 1896-1900 into league. Nap Lajoi, Honus Wagner, Cy Young etc. Their real stats showed their 1901-xxxx stats as expected. The following spring I changed the debut years to 1901-2000. This is when the problem shows up. Players that played late 1900 into the 2000s are only showing their real stats up to 2000 when they actually played until 2006, 2008, etc.. I played out 20 seasons and all players that played into 2000+ retired on their IRL year 2000 instead of playing until they did in their real life age. So playing 1901-2000 the game was acting as though 2000 was end of stats/retirement age. RAH and missed seasons as in real life are on. I think David Watts is having the same issue and he starts his game completely differently than me. He may want to add something. __________________ I am not responsible for anything I post!!! Use at your own risk! Last edited by Reed; 07-10-2024 at 07:52 AM.

07-10-2024, 09:23 AM	#2
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,796 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I can confirm what Reed is reporting. Due to the fielding ratings issue involving modern day players, I figured the best way to play random debut would be to eliminate the modern players altogether and use retire/miss seasons according to history, turning off development and going 100% recalc. Set up a random with 1901 as the minimum and 2000 as the maximum. I assumed this would give me players ranging from the years 1901-2000 and exclude guys like Judge, Betts, Trout etc. It does just that. Problem is, any and all players will retire the minute they reach their real life 2000 season. So Andy Petitte will come in at age 23 and retire at age 27. The maximum is just that, the maximum. I set another league to use 1901-2022. Using this method, all active modern day players retire when they reach the random debut season coinciding with the their 2022 season. This is when retire according to history is turned on. I assumed the maximum setting worked in a way that prevented players from entering the league if they made their MLB debut later than the year set as the maximum. I also assumed that any player that debuted prior to the maximum year would have access to their entire career and would retire according to history based on their actual retirement year, not the year set as the maximum. Last edited by David Watts; 07-10-2024 at 09:25 AM.