It is silly that past versions of the game are not available

[22tbrads22]

Really do not understand why past versions of the game are not for sale. Trying to get people into the series is difficult when the only available version of the game is $50. Don't really see the drawback in offering the last years version at a discount to try and attract newer players.

[pstrickert]

I'm sure there was a reason (which I don't remember) for no longer selling past versions. Demos, though, remain available. Though limited, they can serve to introduce someone to OOTP Baseball.

https://www.ootpdevelopments.com/ootp-prior-version/

[jpeters1734]

i can think of 3 reasons. one should be obvious. You can't sell perfect team packs to gambling addicts if they are content with an older version of the game. Two, OOTP has turned into a subscription model. You can't watch an old version of Netflix at a discount, can you? Finally, I'm sure there is some legal protection from licensing issues if older versions are not sold anymore

[uruguru]

It's not complicated and perfectly understandable. Older versions included stats from the Japanese leagues, which apparently in Japan are considered intellectual property so making those older versions available would bring the Eye of Sauron down upon OOTP.

Nobody wants that.

[twins_34]

You can't buy older versions of Madden NFL nor MLB the Show either... So they are not the only licensed game that also follows this practice.

[twins_34]

Originally Posted by uruguru

It's not complicated and perfectly understandable. Older versions included stats from the Japanese leagues, which apparently in Japan are considered intellectual property so making those older versions available would bring the Eye of Sauron down upon OOTP.

Nobody wants that.

Well OOTP 23 (After the patch), 24, and 25 don't...

[Christopher19a]

Who ? Or what is Sauron ?
Was he the old man with the goat that cursed the Cubs once upon a time ?
What happened to his other eye ?

[AdequateRandomGaming]

Originally Posted by twins_34

You can't buy older versions of Madden NFL nor MLB the Show either... So they are not the only licensed game that also follows this practice.

Don't those games still produce physical copies of the game you can get for dirt cheap at gaming stores when the new iteration comes out ?

[twins_34]

Originally Posted by AdequateRandomGaming

Don't those games still produce physical copies of the game you can get for dirt cheap at gaming stores when the new iteration comes out ?

I can't find any of the older versions after the new ones come out. But yes, they do sell CD's but they are not the physical copy of the game anymore, just a key mainly that allows you to play the game, as in... you download it and install it, but you still need the CD in to play it even though it is a DLC. But even that will end soon the way PS and Xbox are removing blue ray drives from their products.

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by twins_34

You can't buy older versions of Madden NFL nor MLB the Show either... So they are not the only licensed game that also follows this practice.

I can buy Madden 24, and 22 on Steam atm. MLB The Show I can buy every version as far back as 22.

So this is 1000000% wrong.

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by twins_34

I can't find any of the older versions after the new ones come out. But yes, they do sell CD's but they are not the physical copy of the game anymore, just a key mainly that allows you to play the game, as in... you download it and install it, but you still need the CD in to play it even though it is a DLC. But even that will end soon the way PS and Xbox are removing blue ray drives from their products.

https://store.playstation.com/en-ca/...b%20the%20show

Has MLB the show 22-25.

All one has to do is look

[22tbrads22]

Originally Posted by twins_34

Well OOTP 23 (After the patch), 24, and 25 don't...

Older games of madden are sold at retail stores all the time. Steam would be the same thing to OOTP. Why remove it from the site. do not think it is a good business model either. Hard to try a $50 game. I have played the game for a decades so it does not effect me too much, I just think it's a bad business model for a niche game like this

[WhiskyTango]

twins_34 needs to take a time out and regroup. Resident Evil 4 is available on steam and it was released in 2005.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by 22tbrads22

Older games of madden are sold at retail stores all the time. Steam would be the same thing to OOTP. Why remove it from the site. do not think it is a good business model either. Hard to try a $50 game. I have played the game for a decades so it does not effect me too much, I just think it's a bad business model for a niche game like this

And yet they stay in business year after year. Not an easy thing for a niche game like OOTP. You're entitled to your opinion on OOTP's business model, but they are the ones counting the beans while dealing with costs, licensing, and other contracts we as users aren't privy to. Every decision they make affects their ability to stay in business and make a living. My "best guess"? None of these decisions are made lightly.

FWIW, I could care less either way on if they do, or do not sell previous versions. IE I have no dog in the fight.

[WhiskyTango]

Originally Posted by Sweed

And yet they stay in business year after year. Not an easy thing for a niche game like OOTP. You're entitled to your opinion on OOTP's business model, but they are the ones counting the beans while dealing with costs, licensing, and other contracts we as users aren't privy to. Every decision they make affects their ability to stay in business and make a living. My "best guess"? None of these decisions are made lightly.

FWIW, I could care less either way on if they do, or do not sell previous versions. IE I have no dog in the fight.

I'd say the prime thing that has allowed OOTP to stay in business is DUE to being not just a niche but this particular niche. Unless you're suggesting that if OOTP put out this level of product against say the level of product of a Sid Meier's Civilization series they'd do even better. ( and by better I mean more market share)